Ruler of the 8th House in Houses

Ruler of the 8th house in the 1st house

Ruler of the 8th houseThe activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 1st house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve the image, persona, behavior, mannerisms and appearance. A tendency to live life at extremes is one of the first things people notice about you. Your desire for depth and intensity is one of the first things people notice about you. Your sexuality is one of the first things people notice about you. The debts you owe impact the way you present yourself. The image you present is one of a person who has emotional baggage. Your deep interactions with other people impact your behavior and mannerisms. An interest in shared finances is one of the first things people notice about you. Your attitude to life and death is one of the first things people notice about you. Your interest in occult subjects is one of the first things people discover about you. Your sexual activities influence the image you present. Sex partners have to contend with the mask you wear and the image you present. Sex partners have to bend to your behavior and mannerisms. Peak emotional experiences influence your approach to the world. Partners have a big effect on your attitude to life. You use your capacity for investigation in the way that you approach life. Your interest in the 0ccult affects your appearance. Your interest in death and the occult influences your approach to life. The money you have tied up with other people affects your approach to life. Your capacity for research and investigation is one of the first things people discover about you. We approach the world like a detective.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 2nd house

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 2nd house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve financial stability, defining personal values and accumulating possessions. Emotional entanglements help you define your values. Sexual activities help you define your values. Sex is a survival need. You use your capacity for research and investigation to earn a living. You need to adjust your debt to your spending and earning habits. Inheritances affect your personal wealth. Your attitude to life and death affects your basic survival needs. Your capacity for deep emotional interactions with others can help you earn a living. Your interest in the occult can help you pay the bills. Debt affects your self-esteem and self-worth. You view sexual partners as possessions. You want to possess occult knowledge. Your ability to understand the motivations of other people helps you make money. You’d have sex for cash. You recycle other people’s things to earn cash. Peak emotional experiences make you feel physically secure. You enter sexual relationships in search of financial security. Shared resources add to your personal wealth. Sex affects the way you spend and earn money. Sexual partners have a say in what you own.  Inheritances affect your survival needs. Transformations influence your self-worth.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 3rd house

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 3rd house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve communication, information gathering and everyday interactions. Emotional entanglements affect the way you think and communicate. Sexual activities influence what you write, teach and talk about. You write detective stories. You keep a sex journal. You write a blog about sex and psychology issues. Sexual issues come up between you and your siblings. You bring your need for peak emotional experiences to your everyday interactions. You use your capacity for research and investigation in your writing. You bring your capacity for research and investigation to education. Inheritances affect your sibling relationships. Inheritances affect relationships with neighbors. Your attitude to life and death affects your relationship with your siblings. You write macabre stories. You write about occult subjects. Deep emotional exchanges with others are part of your everyday interactions. Your interest in the occult is something you talk about on an everyday basis. Debt affects your ability to learn. Sexual repression affects your communication. Sexual partners become part of your everyday circle. Sex partners need to adjust to your everyday relationships with other people. Sex partners need to adjust to the way you communicate. Your sex life becomes the topic of a blog. Your ability to understand other people’s motivation gives you something to write and talk about.  Talking to the dead is an everyday occurrence. Peak emotional experiences make you feel mentally alert. Transformations influence the way you think.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 4th house

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 4th house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve emotional security, building a psychological foundation, familial relationships, roots and heritage. Your complex emotional entanglements influence your core psychological makeup. Sexual issues are part of your cultural inheritance. Intense exchanges occur in family situations. Your emotional repression and baggage express themselves at home. Sexual tension permeates your home life. You use your capacity for research and investigation to explore your psychological foundation. Shared debt is a family issue. Inheritances help or hinder your family. Your attitude to life and death affects your relationship with your family members. Your need for a peak experience affects your emotional security. Your capacity for deep emotional interactions with others expresses itself best with people who feel like family. Your interest in the occult has a positive or negative effect on your family. Sexual partners help you feel rooted. Sexual partners become part of your family circle. Understanding the motivations of other people helps you understand your family and your roots.  You have sex to feel emotionally secure. You bring your work interest in death home with you. Peak emotional experiences occur in the privacy of your own home. Shared resources add to feelings of emotional security. Sexual partners have to adjust to your cultural inheritance. Transformation affects your psychological foundation.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 5th house

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 5th house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve creativity, personal self-expression, risk-taking, hobbies, romance and interactions with children. You bring your need for depth interactions with others to your need for lighthearted romance. Romantic relationships and dating take on a life or death feeling. You try to elicit peak emotional experiences in what should be ‘fun’ exchanges. Emotional entanglements compel you to take risks. Sexual activities serve the need to engage in risky behavior. Working with other people’s resources serves the need to engage in risky behavior. Stock brokers. You have sex to have children. Sex is for pleasure and relaxation. Sex is your favorite hobby and sport. You use your capacity for research and investigation in your hobbies.  Amateur detectives or private investigators. You need to adjust your sexual inclinations with the needs of your children. Inheritances affect your ability to take on creative projects. The occult is your hobby. Death is a hobby. You use your work with the dead and dying in your creative projects. You write funeral music. You bring intensity to your artistic endeavors. You bring your interest in the occult to the theater. Your attitude to life and death influences the way you take risks. Bungee jumpers, sky divers. Deep emotional interactions are a way to lighten up and have fun. You probe other people for your own amusement. The desire for peak emotional experiences compels you to engage in risky behavior.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 6th house

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 6th house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve the need to be healthy, be employed, have a routine and interact with animals. You deal with other people’s stuff as part of your everyday job. You work as tax accountants, estate planners, IRS workers, bookkeepers, trash collectors, at a recycling facility, “used” store or mortuary. Death is a part of the everyday working environment. Sexual activities are part of the everyday working environment. You engage in depth interactions with animals. Animal hospice care worker. You bring your concerns about sexuality to health, diet and fitness. You work with AIDS patients. You use or make Viagra. You create herbal supplements for sexual enhancement. Sexual activities influence your health. You use your capacity for research and investigation in health and fitness fields. You experience peak emotions around animals. You have complex emotions surrounding health and diet. Work is emotionally turbulent. Sharing resources is an everyday habit. Sex is an everyday habit. You give your inheritance to the ASPCA.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 7th house

 

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 7th house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve cooperation, conflict, significant partnerships and negotiations. You bring your debt to marriage. Shared resources come through business and marriage partnerships. You get emotionally entangled with your open enemies. Sex becomes an issue in marriage. You use your capacity for research and investigation in your business partnerships. You use your capacity for research and investigation in negotiating contracts. Inheritances affect your marriage. Your attitude to life and death affects your significant relationships. Your capacity for deep emotional interactions with others can help make your marriage easy or difficult. Your interest in the occult influences what type of marriage partner you will choose. You view sexual partners as potential marriage partners. Your ability to understand the motivation of other people helps you negotiate. Peak emotional experiences make you feel confrontational. You enter sexual relationships in search of a significant partner.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 8th house

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 8th house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep are an end unto themselves. You get emotionally entangled with other people to form deep connections. You need sex to form a deep connection with another person. Orgasm feels like transformation. Orgasm makes you deeply connect with another person. Orgasm feels like death. Sex is a shared resource. You use your capacity for research and investigation to understand the motivation of other people. You investigate death. You investigate the taxes people owe. You’re a debt collector. Your debt affects your sexual relationships. Inheritances affect your sexual relationships. Your attitude to life and death affects your ability to deeply connect with other people. Your emotional baggage affects your ability to deeply connect with other people. Your interest in the occult makes you explore death. You apply your occult knowledge to sexual relationships. You recycle because you understand the cycle of death and rebirth. You enter sexual relationships for sex.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 9th house

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 9th house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve the need to expand your horizons, travel, and explore foreign cultures and philosophies. Emotional entanglements help you expand your horizons. Sexual activities expand your horizons. You seek sexual experiences with people of other cultures and backgrounds. Your attitude to sex helps shape your philosophy of life. Your relationship with death shapes your belief system. Research and investigation leads you to travel. You research and investigate other cultures, religions and belief systems. You apply your investigative instincts to journalism. Inheritances go overseas. Your attitude to life and death affects your ability to get along with people from different belief systems. Your interest in the occult leads you to travel. Debt or tax evasion causes you to flee to another country. Sexual partners encourage you to travel. Your ability to understand the motivation of other people helps you connect with people from other cultures and religions. Peak emotional experiences are expressed through religion. Your sex life must fit in with your religious beliefs and cultural background. Your attitude to sex expresses itself through religion.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 10th house

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 10th house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve our need to build a reputation, gain recognition for achievements and find a vocation. Emotional entanglements help you find your true vocation. Sexual activities build your reputation. Your sexuality is expressed through your profession. Your sexuality is widely recognized. You use your capacity for research and investigation in your career. Your debts become public. Inheritances affect your social status. Your attitude to life and death affects the profession you choose. Your capacity for deep emotional interactions contributes to the recognition and awards you receive. The occult can become a profession. Your interest in death can lead to a vocation. Sexual partners boost your social status. Sexual partners help you gain recognition and awards. You can make a career out of understanding other people’s motivation. Sex is a way to climb the ladder. Your interest in recycling can make you well-known. Peak emotional experiences come through finding a vocation. You enter sexual relationships in search of social status. Shared resources affect your status. Sexual partners become involved in your professional life. Your ability to transform can help or hinder your career.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 11th house

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 11th house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve connecting with like-minded people, attitudes to social reform, long-term hopes and dreams, and gaining friends and fans. You get emotionally entangled with your friends. You bring your financial debts to group interactions. Debtors Anonymous. You express your interest in life and death through group activities. You play online World of War Craft. Sexual activities happen in groups. Group sex. You bring your need for sex to your friends. You complain to your friends about your sex life, or try to hook up with them. You use research and investigation in the clubs you belong to. You bring your interest in the occult to the groups you belong to. You try to make your friends interested in occult subjects. You have to adjust your debts to achieve long-term goals and dreams. Your attitude to life and death affects your capacity to become an icon. Your interest in the occult attracts fans. Your ability to understand the motivations of other people affects your friendships. You bring your need for depth interactions to friendships. You need to belong to groups of like-minded people who share your intensity.

Ruler of the 8th house in the 12th house

The activities of the 8th house serve the agenda of the 12th house. Transformation, attitudes to life and death, other people’s resources, sex and the desire to dig deep serve the need to release grief and sorrow, spend time alone, melt into formless bliss, escape from reality and become aware of our own self-undoing. Emotional entanglements help you release grief and sorrow. Sexual activities help you release grief and sorrow. You use your capacity for research and investigation to explore the paranormal. Inheritances can be the self-undoing. Debt can be the self-undoing. Tax evasion can be the self-undoing. Your attitude to life and death influences your interest in dreams and the paranormal. You investigate dreams. Your become a dream researcher or dream therapist. Dreams are intense experiences. Your capacity for deep emotional interactions with others can be a way for you to escape from daily responsibilities. Sex can be a way to escape from daily responsibilities. Sex can be the self-undoing. Your interest in the occult can be the self-undoing. Your interest in hidden things leads you to explore dreams and ghosts. Your understanding of the motivation of other people makes you want to be alone. Sexual experiences come through meditation. Peak emotional experiences come through charitable activities. You take your interest in sex to institutions. You explore the sexual activities of the incarcerated and institutionalized. Emotional baggage adds to your karma.

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42 Responses to “Ruler of the 8th House in Houses”

  1. Anonymous says:

    In my humble opinion, the 6th, 8th, and 12th houses are where modern astrology has gone most horribly astray, and so accordingly ends up having the least to say about actual people. Since I have the Ruler of my 6th in my 8th and the Ruler of my 8th in my 12th, I expect those blog posts won’t resonate for me like some of your other ones have.
    The ancient conception of the 8th house was the “Idle Place” – it was the last place you spent time before you spent time in the “Place” where you set, i.e. died. So it implied a kind of paralysis as you looked at your oncoming death. It was worse than actually dying, because dying could mean a change of Sect or release into heaven, but the 8th house was Idle or frozen, and not in beholding to the Ascendant, nor beholding it. It has a quality of anxiety to it, fear, the thought of the future of death. Related is debt, the future of money owed. Financial obligations, taxes, losses, loans, money owed to others, People like to say this is a house of transformation, to make it sound like there is no “bad place” in the horoscope. But the 8th house is by definition of the rules of astrology “bad.” The transformation that can come from the 8th house (and I realize I’m totally off the subject at hand here, for which I apologize!) comes -after- you’ve been harrowed by the house. If you can live through the experience and gain any kind of insight from it, then you can definitely change yourself. But that’s not the 8th house. That’s you.

    Anyway I thought about not posting this, because hey it’s your blog, but I thought you might appreciate seeing the classical position even if you disagree with it and aren’t interested in looking into it!

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    • Michelle says:

      Lol, I like your insights gracehoper! I have read many times that the 8th house is the pits. Being someone with so many placements in the 8th house, and my 8th house ruler (Mars) in partile square to Pluto, I have to find a way to look at it that isn’t so dire.
      I definitely agree about “money owed” and things in general that I owe to other people, but, at the same time that I feel bound by those debts, they also prevent me from being an island. I could go off and live very happily all by myself for a very long time if I didn’t have some kind of pull-back to the rest of the world.

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      • msfullroller says:

        “..I could go off and live very happily all by myself for a very long time
        if I didn’t have some kind of pull-back to the rest of the world.”

        Thank you so much for saying this…I feel the exact same way! Never thought that this might be 8th house related as well as the 8th house ruler in aspect to Pluto. But it does make a lot sense.

        It’s not helping that T. Mars is opposing my 7th house stuff right now!

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        • Michelle says:

          “It’s not helping that T. Mars is opposing my 7th house stuff right now!”

          Oh yeah, good point! T Mars is in wide opposition to my natal Venus on the 7/8 cusp … hadn’t really thought about that! 
          Yeah, but seriously, I could live on an island if I had enough stuff to keep myself entertained.

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    • Pjgecmendes says:

      Well,in Hellinic system my capricorn Sun,Venus-Mars conjunction is in 8th house.
      Still in my experience it is the squares and oppositions that cause negative events,not transits to planets in aversion to ascendant:hence i have some doubts about the whole idea of houses in aversion to asc and by extension planetary aspects like quincunx and dodecile

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  2. jjasonham says:

    In the 5th house: “Romantic relationships and dating take on a life or death feeling. You try to elicit peak emotional experiences in what should be ‘fun’ exchanges.”

    When I read that my mouth hit the floor. Nail on the head.

    Great Job, Michelle!

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  3. Michelle says:

    Alright! A 5th-8th connection is conflicting. The 5th house is the most lighthearted house, but the 8th is decidedly not.

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  4. Shannon says:

    Well, this hit home! Pisces rules my 8th so I'm double-dipping: Jupiter in the 3rd, and Neptune in the 5th.

    3rd house, 3rd house… I would paste in the points I found personally relevant, but then it would just be about two-thirds of that section. Spot on. And I get the whole 5th-8th conflict for sure, plus I have Leo rising and lots of Pluto. Conflict!

    Great post.

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  5. Michelle says:

    I'm glad that you could relate to these descriptions :) I think that Pluto aspects are way more intense than 8th house placements, so I'm sure that you really get it!

    I'm interested to see what you do with your blog, http://signsofpotential.com, and how you develop your various interests :D

    Thank you for stopping by Shannon.

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  6. Carolinepowell1 says:

    I’d add to H8 ruler in the 9th as intelligent lovers are the best for you.

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    • Michelle says:

      Yes, or at least you want a partner who’s willing to have philosophical discussions after sex.

      Thank you for reading Carolinepowell1.

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    • Pjgecmendes says:

      saturn ruler of 8 in aquarius in h9 in equal house but also in placidus in the sense that though 27 of sagitarius is in the 8th cusp, mars-venus in cappy are in h8.
      I need to like the girls in order to live in a country,otherwise find it very hard.I`ve lived in a country where the gals in general werent my type and was frustrated all time.
      Also,sun,ascendant and moon`s rulers are all in aquarius.Am i doomed to end up an astrologer?
      I got an electric guitar,things electric are also aquarius i think
      But Uranus is in h4

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  7. Liz in PA says:

    Libra 8th Venus 12th … yup, yup and yup – that’s all I’m sayin’ bout it.

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    • Michelle says:

      Thank you for the feedback, Liz :D

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  8. Kc says:

    Wow!  I’ve never come across descriptions of house rulers in signs… This adds a lot to my understanding of myself (ruler of 8th in 8th), as well as other people I know…

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    • Michelle says:

      Thank you for reading, KC.

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  9. Nin says:

    Hi 
    I red some where when the ruler of 8th house in the 12th house the person will be a sex addict & short lived & the opposite sex can’t resists them  
    what is your say on that ?!

    nice blog by the way 

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  10. sensual says:

    8th house Ruler is Mars and it is in its own house (8th)

    sex- transformation and life-death cycles- I am now celibate for 5 years and I dont know what I am trying to prove and to whom- religious fanaticism can occur and I try not to base it too much on it- but it is there…

    I want to tap into psyche of a lover and fulfill his craziest desires- and I have done it in past- a period of promiscuity (wonderful- fulfilling) till I loved and lost- and now I dont know but I am away from the dance of it and miss it like hell..

    any idea, what to do… I want the same level that I found when I was with the man I love (who is gone- left me) and I can not fathom how to rise from ashes as phoenix. 

    Pluto is in 1st house- and Mars in 8th

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  11. Stasiastes says:

    My 8th house Ruler is Venus, she is in her own house, she is also Ruler of the whole horoscope. Besides Venus, I have in my 8th also Mercury (who rules Venus and is ruled by her; they are in reception and conjunction) , Sun and Moon – new moon. 

    sensual – I think that Ruler of the 8th in its own house is rather heavy case. One famous in my country astrologer told me, that it is like to put a noose on your own neck, ant to suffocate as a consequence. He took this rule from XVIth century french astrologer Morinus. This man advised me to relocate my birth chart by moving to another place in t he world, but I have a couple of other hard alignments in my horoscope – Saturn, Uranus, Chiron MC/IC cross; Sun-Neptun opposition, Pluto in 12th, Lilith exact conjunct Descendant, Saturn-Neptune sesquisquare, Saturn in detriment in Cancer, Saturn and Mars in Zenith and few others and I believe I have to treat my horoscope – my life as a challenge, as a fight or a task to fulfill. 

    Marsilio Ficino having birth chart which according to the astrological tradition seemed unfortunate, denied this tradition and even transformed it. He wrote a lot about melancholy, that we nowadays would call depression. My own chart measured by traditional rules seems much worse than Ficino’s, sometimes I see it as an incredibly complicated combination of unmanagable components, but other times I see some hope for solving this puzzle and finding the way to realease. I hope you’ll find yours either sensual. Maybe you should try Stan Grof’s holotropic therapy, as myself intend to.

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    • Michelle says:

      My ex-bf had the ruler of the 8th in the 8th, in a 5 planet stellium, with most of the stellium opposing a Saturn/Chiron conjunction … lots of stuff to work through involving intense relationships with other people. Lots of dependency versus abandonment issues.

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      • Stasiastes says:

        Michelle – I absolutely agree, so much things to go through that it never ends. I also have Saturn/Chiron in exact square so I very much like and deeply appreciate what you wrote about that combination. Actually, we are almost the same age (I am one and a half month younger ;) thus having some common alignments. My Chiron is in the 7th house, very troublesome location concerning relationships, Barbara Hand Clow’s insights seem much true to me. The same motif in my chart is also signified by Pluto in the 12th – house representing somebody’s jungian “shadow”, those things that are rejected. In my case it means, that in spite a lot of my problems concern relationships, I had to work on them in solitude, though they were caused by solitude and loneliness. I’m glad that because of your boyfriend you understand those murky 8th house issues. In turn, my girlfriend has an Ascendant in Leo and Moon in Leo in the 12th, I guess as you have. Her Moon is in her shadow, she also had always felt that she doesn’t want to have babies, her maternal instincts hidden very deep, emerging only few times in altered state – visions. Have you read Tracy Marks’ book about the 12th house “Your Inner Self”? I wish someone wrote such book concerning the 8th.
        8th is the house of destruction. Passions so deep that impossible to satisfy. Whatever you put there, at once it begins to rot, corrode, dissolve, transmute. Most of my 8th is in Gemini, so in my case it’s mainly about knowledge. I often felt, that my mind is a black hole, everything is dragged in but nothing goes out. All books that I’ve read, all theories that I’ve known,  pushed out into forgetfullness by always renewing irrational desires for more knowledge and more theories and philosophies, yet different and different. It looks like so from the daily conscioussness point of view. But maybe somewhere deep inside nothing really vanishes, and powerful underground forces continuosly work to transform all that prima materia.
        Abandonment? Yes. the 8th house is about possessions of the others, and when you have a stellium there, the other person’s values count, she is your only valuable possesion. When you loose her, you loose everything, you simply die, sometimes resurrect. In such situations, it’s difficult about objectivity, healthy distance, common sense and being a rational person. It’s compulsive, irrational, overwhelming, not giving you actually any choice, and you are conscious of it. There you stand before the Great Mystery of Life, you’ll never be “normal” and reasonable again.
        Putting a noose on your own neck and cosmic black hole are good metaphors for 8th house ruler in the 8th. ‘Falling’ into depression either. I am just thinking about differences between saturnian melancholy and 8th house emotional collapse. A lot of things to figure out.
        You too have both those elements (Saturn affecting Moon/Mecury/Chiron, Sun in 8th) enmeshed in your birth chart, Michelle, that ‘s why what you write has so much depth and why i like it. ;)

        Pjgecmendes – I did not mean Morinus house system, but his set of rules to interpret the natal charts. I think you should know and feel the best in which house are your planets situated, try to check houses of their rulers and houses ruled by them. Use your intuition. As for me, the whole house sign doesn’t seem to work, contrary to what those ‘traditional’ astrologers say that it’s so logical and cogent. I think that most of them are so concerned about knowledge of the old books, that unable to grasp how astrological archetypes really work in our daily lives.

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        • Pjgecmendes says:

          not to mention that in WSH system a 10 second difference or less in your birthtime could completely change your chart. equal house would make more sense

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        • Michelle says:

          Thank you for sharing your thoughts.I like your idea of writing a book entirely about the 8th house. Although I mentioned my ex-bf’s placements, my own Sun, Mercury, Venus (7/8 cusp), Jupiter (8/9 cusp), Chiron, Pallas and Black Moon Lilith are in the 8th house.

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          • Stasiastes says:

            Actually, I’ve just found one: http://www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Eighth-Astrological-House-ebook/dp/B004IPPLC0/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_2 , http://www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Eighth-Astrological-House-Phoenix/dp/1450534503 and considering its moving introduction it seems quite good. Free preview in the kindle edition is more complete than in paperback, but the paperback contains fragments of the next chapters. The article mentioned in the beginning is also available online on the author’s page.

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    • Pjgecmendes says:

      which house system did the astrologer use? Morinus? Using morinus system my sun-venus mars conjunction is in h9 but in whole house sign in 8.Maybe i should move?

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      • Michelle says:

        Moving changes the dynamics of your chart. Go to astro.com/free horoscopes/extended horoscope selection. Change the reference place for the birth chart then choose “relocation chart” from the dropdown box. You can see how your chart will change depending on where you move/live/vacation, etc…

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  12. Michelle says:

    Tough question sensual. It’s hard to say without seeing your whole chart (I don’t do astrology readings within the blog). Is Saturn in aspect to your Mars or Pluto?

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    • Lex says:

      The only thing i hate about a blog is that when you’re this far down the line who tha fuck is actually going to respond, and when – if.

      I have saturn in the 8th, with Pluto, i’m having a return right now in libra at 28 degrees.

      I’m in a relationship that can make me powerful, and i see it, but i can’t handle how much of the relationship is bent on things i can’t stand being involved with. It’s only showing me how power come at the greatest of costs, that the price to pay is only worth your soul, nothing much

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      • Lex says:

         oh and… here’s what i learned from this house, one of few to learn anything from it, but first, i had to look deep inside to see my own face.

        Your life is not yours. Your money is not yours.
        Your feelings aren’t yours. Because you deseve NOTHING. Your life is on loan from a sinister pig, evil shadow that loved to hurt everyone and everything around it, so absolutely obsessed with physical form, reform and deformation that once finally appearing to yourself as you have forced others to appear to you you can only see the dark side of everything, hence you will enjoy reading my post.

        You are one sinister c*nt, vulgur, debaucherous son of a bitch, oh your mother was a bitch aswell, you would have fuc**d her, but she was too old and perfered beating elders into submission instead, more prudent were the tactics to conceal your black energy that only a god like Hades would assist in your dealings with the world, but with Hades came victums, deep wounds, charged with violence and rotten hate, that perhaps your identity could be more open but you simply perfer to stamp this life out through a peep hole like a wanking Tom, the first crack in the atmosphere with your new girlfriend wasn’t a word sharper than a kitanna, but a fleeting slap and a few broken windows, glasses and – anything else you could find.

        Wasn’t good enough you had to rape her aswell, but she asked for it, since those are the only girls worth your attention anyway, dark misstress-like, whores from the underworld, rip her to pieces, perhaps a vile picture for a setting sun, to wipe blood off your face after sex.

        The 8th house is a rotten dungeon for your sick and twisted fettish for broken souls and weak women/men.

        The 8th house only gives you peace when you give incessantly the blood, sweat and tears you took from everyone else.

        Embrace your new home, there’s nowhere else to live until its over.

        Next place, is natural death, force it, and you’ll just –
        DO IT AGAIN.

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        • Stasiastes says:

          Hello Lex,  Michelle and others. I recommend you a very good article about the 8th house by late Gerry Goddard, whose ideas I discovered during my last tJupiter-nUranus opposition, few pages worthy of a serious study because of its mind-changing potential http://www.islandastrology.net/trans8.html

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        • Michelle says:


          Your life is not yours. Your money is not yours.

          Your feelings aren’t yours. Because you deseve NOTHING. Your life is on loan from a sinister pig, evil shadow”I’ve definitely been feeling that the last few months.

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        • Michelle says:


          Your life is not yours. Your money is not yours.

          Your feelings aren’t yours. Because you deseve NOTHING. Your life is on loan from a sinister pig, evil shadow”I’ve definitely been feeling that the last few months.

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      • Michelle says:

        Yup, that happens sometimes. Your going to have quite a ride until Saturn finally leaves Libra in October. 

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  13. Michelle says:

    Thank you for pointing out this book. I only had time to skim the intro. Maybe I can read it over the weekend.

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  14. Michelle says:

    Thank you for sharing it, Stasiastes.

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  15. Michelle says:

    Thank you for sharing it, Stasiastes.

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  16. Thomas Baker63 says:

    The occult is your hobby. Death is a hobby. You use your work with the dead and dying in your creative projects. You write funeral music. You bring intensity to your artistic endeavors. You bring your interest in the occult to the theater. Your attitude to life and death influences the way you take risks. Bungee jumpers, sky divers. Deep emotional interactions are a way to lighten up and have fun. You probe other people for your own amusement

    Read more: http://astrofix.net/2010/05/11/ruler-of-the-8th-house-in-houses/#ixzz1vm6a9yBM

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  17. Lex says:

    Kudo’s, nice find.

    However, this 8th principle may also be learnt ‘of’ during the moons transit through the 12th house experience, perhaps not immediately, but eventually, toward the end of the phase, if one is mindful of their inner nature & progressive, – taking notes. Steps to integrate the value of 8th principle ensue; without calling it this, i would have said it was plain interest in being more .. whole.

    refusal to emerge from the intense depth of experience may be more a task than i want to admit.

    as explained herein,

    “…the body-ego’s fundamental project is to be
    an ‘independent intimate’ of the Great Mother. In the body-ego’s
    interaction with the mothering parent, this project takes the form of
    the body project, which is the attempt on the part of the body-ego to
    use its body as a means of achieving both closeness to and safe distance
    from the mother…the body-ego has mixed feelings, wanting both
    intimacy with and independence from the Great Mother. It wants both to
    receive the Great Mother’s blessings and to be self-possessed and
    self-controlled.”While the moon in my progress chart ventured through pisces in the 12th house, i became aware of this concept in a different manner.Honing an ability to stay here firmly, while understanding the source of our infiniteness is the true art of this human experience.But… i may have misinterpretted this whole idea.The darkness where i found my soul is not the place i live anymore, but find myself depressed having left, since it was where i learned to feel.Why should i live in an aquarians world, in the light if there is nothing to feel there?

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    • Michelle says:

      I’m a little confused … so is the ruler of your 8th house in the 12th house?

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  18. Ana38banana says:

    I know how you feel. I have Sun, Mars, Pluto and Mercury in Scorpio in the 8th and I haven’t been celibate for that long but it’s definitely been a while. It is difficult for me to open up to anyone. I broke up with my ex about 2 years ago & I’ve had several lovers since but no one long term. It’s been months since I’ve been in a sexually active & in a way I’m afraid because I know it would make me extremely vulnerable. 

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    • Michelle says:

      Sounds pretty tough Ana38banana.

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