Saturn/Ascendant Aspects

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Grave dedication to a routine. Reduced presence. Shyness. Gauntness. Pale, grim, and skinny. Bony. Tight expression. Difficulty reaching out to others. Confronting the other makes you contract. Contracting presence. Contracting in confrontation. Narrowing down. Strained expression. Cutting out the excess. Focusing on the essentials. A narrow viewpoint – not necessarily negative. Ascetics. Minimalists. Tunnel vision. Wearing blinders. Conservatism. Business sense. Business leaders. Managers. A reasonable outlook. Understanding what’s real. Incarnate. The recognition that you have incarnated (in contrast to Neptune/Ascendant). The clock starts now.

The recognition of having a finite amount of time.Time-consciousness. Waiting for the right time. Good sense of timing. The ability to put yourself in the right place at the right time. Not enough spontaneity. If not now, when? The ability to be discerning. Gray days. Raindrops are falling on my head. A dour outlook. Duly dour. Taking life seriously. Little gray men. Contracting into manifestation. Rigid. Maturity. Authority. Restriction. Barrier. Hard lines. The difference between me and you. Boundaries and barriers. Barriers to personality. Barriers to relationship. People put you in a box. You put yourself in a box. Lack of personality. Sticking to the rules. Standards of behavior. Standards of appearance.

Keeping people at a distance. No merging. Learning how to present yourself professionally. Learning how to have healthy personal barriers. Presenting a mask of maturity. Aging fast. Looking older. Acting like a parent. Taking on others’ responsibility. The rules of engagement. Literally, the rules of engagement … you might have a lot of rules that you impose on your partner. You make your partner jump through hoops to be with you. You might make your partner feel that they have to prove themselves to you. You are someone to be looked up to and respected. You might find it difficult to respect people who don’t have personal goals. You measure your progress by how people respond to you. It might be hard to break through and prove yourself. You’re hard on yourself and you’re hard on others. Or, you take on all the difficulties of your partner while they loaf.

Restructuring your outlook. Getting real about your presence in the world. Taking a step back to assess the situation. Learning to check your surroundings. Security-consciousness. Rarely letting go. Afraid of getting in trouble. I am me and you are you. Understanding of personal barriers and personal space. Respectful of personal boundaries. Respectful of other people’s situations. Wanting respect in return. Wanting to be respected. Wanting to be taken seriously. Looking forward to getting older. Looking forward to growing up. Not wanting to be treated like a kid. An adult. A serious person. An old man. A crone. A hermit. A twig. A bone. Fears of looking like a fool. Bad dreams of being a clown. Bad dreams of showing up with no clothes on. Fears of failure. Every interaction is a lesson. Cashing reality checks. Accepting reality. Accepting who you are and where you are.

So many obstacles. So many struggles. Things can be grim. Toughening up. Getting real experience. Having a real life. Danger of becoming too hard. Danger of the outer personality becoming too strong a barrier against the inner life. Over-identification with crystallized outer identity. Hard knocks. Imposing a serious view. Learning to balance levity and seriousness. Making peace with life’s struggles. Understanding that hardship is part of life.

The ability to take your version seriously despite opposition. The ability to go the distance with your viewpoint. The ability to cut through superficiality. The ability to consider long-term implications of choosing a direction in life. The ability to plan ahead. The ability to take your time. The ability to wait for rewards. The ability to trudge forward without praise or hand-clapping. Tenacity. Grit. Hard-working. The ability to set a routine and stick to it. Steadily manifesting a life path. Methodical fulfillment of path goals.

Planets in aspect to the Ascendant are also always in aspect to the Descendant. Posts will be split up between Ascendant and Descendant to show the different point of view that each of the angles brings to the natal chart. To learn about the flip-side of Saturn/Ascendant aspects, read Saturn/Descendant Aspects (Coming soon).

People with Saturn/Ascendant aspects:

  • Janeane Garafolo (actress/comedian): Saturn sextile ascendant
  • Hank Aaron (baseball player): Saturn biquintile ascendant
  • Stephen Arroyo (astrologer): Saturn trine ascendant
  • Ray Davies (singer - The Kinks): Saturn biquintile ascendant
  • Bob Dylan (singer): Saturn quincunx ascendant
  • David Copperfield (magician): Saturn sextile ascendant

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  • AKdmj

    Michelle,

    I’m sorry I have to disagree with your article. As an individual with Saturn conjunct Ascendant, I’m afraid very few of your catch phrases resonate with me.

    I’m not thin, or gaunt – rather overweight (Jupiter makes no aspect to ascendant)
    I’m not overly serious, shy, nor do I have a difficult time reaching out to others – I am the life of the party with more friends than I care for (11th house empty and ruler is besieged).
    No tight expression – I’m always smiling.
    The ability to stick to a routine – absolutely not! I can’t stand routine and I cant manage to stick to a diet.

    Besides the above mentioned there are many, many more of your “catch phrases” I completely disagree with. Perhaps, as an astrologer you should avoid cook book generalizations and consider the individual natal chart as a whole.

    Cheers : )

    • AKdmj,

      Please provide an example of someone delineating a Saturn/Ascendant aspect using the whole chart … and I mean the WHOLE chart … every single thing in the chart that could lead to any kind of variation of meaning. Thanks.

  • Toboxi

    This is so accurate.. It’s scary. I can relate to it now as I am older and more mature. Thank you 🙂 I have my Saturn (in Virgo) trine my Taurus ascendant at 0.00 degrees orbit.

    • Thank you for reading, Toboxi.

  • Akasha

    Superinteresting! Thank you for the article. I am trying to find info since I have a weird opposition: Neptune conjunct ascendant opposite Saturn conjunct descendant. I want to learn, how this impacts my life.

    I have problems with boundaries and I’ve turned into a real spiritual bohemian and a full-on hippie recently but I’m also very able in making plans and taking disciplined steps. I reached career success but taking steps towards another career. I don’t live in an illusion but can see “the reality” even though I am open to otherworldly. And my partners have always been sort of father figures to me even when they are always much younger…

    I guess all I’m trying to ask is how to really learn to use this disposition well?

    • Hi Akasha,

      I’d have to see your chart to give you any insight.

  • Murilo Oltramari

    It’s really neat to revisit this site from times to times. As always, this is my favorite place to understand astrology better and myself through your articles. I have a conjunction and most parts of this article are well related to me and make a lot of sense. Some of the other parts make me reflect on myself and my identity. Thank you for your amazing work.

    • Thank you for reading, Murilo Oltramari.

  • KC

    I may have mentioned this in another post on your site in the past, but I want to suggest to everyone the consideration of the potency of the quindecile aspect, especially in natal. I don’t know why it has not caught on more yet.

    I have Saturn in 6th, exact quindecile ASC (i.e. <1 degree), and this description here is very applicable to me. I also have Jupiter exactly conjunct ASC; so, Saturn/Jupiter aspect is also relevant. (As well, I have Saturn exactly opposite Neptune in 12th.)

    The only other Saturn influence I have is Venus in Cap in 1st house (though my ASC is Sag). That is also my only planet in earth.

    So, overlooking this quindecile to my ASC would leave quite a blind spot in my self-analysis. Certainly, the exuberant expression that might be expected with Jupiter conjunct ASC in Sag is quite mitigated and sobered by this quindecile to Saturn. Honestly, it is really a struggle between the two influences. It never seems i can achieve a "balance." ( This is reminding me that I need to also look at your Saturn/Jupiter post.)

    I have other quindecile aspects that I found were able to fill several holes in my natal analysis, once I took them into account. You may also find that they are mirrored with other aspects in your chart as well. For example, for those who are fans of Magi Astrology and look at multiple dimensions, I have exact Mars/ Pluto quindecile in geocentric, and also exact Mars/Pluto quincunx in heliocentric.

    Thank you for this description, though. …One more for me to meditate upon…and maybe make some much-needed dissolving of that Saturn crystallization! …Saturn currently transiting my 12th. Time for big changes…but of course Jupiter can't wait that long. …Struggle, struggle.

    • Which quindecile aspect are you using?

      http://www.noeltyl.com/techniques/990801.html

      • KC

        Hi Michelle. The 165 deg. That is what is defined as “the” quindecile aspect by Noel Tyl.

        I can’t say I have dwelled on the specific nuances of this aspect, but there is definitely something very Saturnine going on, with how I am concerned with how others perceive me. I was contemplating this since I posted yesterday…a seeming constant fear of being judged, disapproved of, for not “having my sh*t together.” I feel I have been the one to look up to with respect, in my family, but I feel I am chasing that “image” right now, and have a hard time accepting my “weaknesses.” I am always waiting for the other shoe to drop, in that regard (for someone to judge me)…but it never happens!

        Very hard on myself; but at the same time resenting that I am hard on myself, with Jupiter on Sag ASC not wanting to be constrained and ruled by such things as how I am perceived. As well, instead of doing what I need to do, Neptune opposing wants to put his head in the sand and expect things to work out fatefully in time. Essentially, I often feel paralyzed.

        On the other hand, Tyl suggests the “obsessive” nature of the aspect, and perhaps my current focus on improving my appearance and health could be an example of it in action. I am embarking on a total overhaul, with intermittent fasting, and other techniques, to get to my goal of looking good and improving other long-standing health issues I have ignored. I feel I am missing out on much in my life that I want, because of my appearance right now. (That is, I want to look good, so I can find someone who looks good–if you want to just say it like it is!)

        • I took a look at my own chart yesterday and noticed I do not have aspect that is close to 165 degrees.

          May I take a look at your chart to get a better overall picture of what you’re talking about?

        • KC

          Yes, I will email you my info.

          …I just realized that if I consider the quindecile, I have a symmetrical 4-planet formation.

          Jupiter/ASC exactly squares Mars in 3rd, which exactly quindeciles Pluto in 9th, which exactly trines Saturn in 6th (which quindeciles Ju/ASC).

          (The axis of the geometry is from Pl/Sa midpoint to Ju/Ma midpoint). If I could figure out how to wrangle that beast, I might have something powerful at my disposal!

          …Thank you for your questions, or I might not have even noticed this.

          I also have Moon quindecile Venus (orb ~1.5).

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  • LB

    “A crone. A hermit. A twig. A bone.”
    Very poetic, Michelle. I’m all those and more. My 4H Saturn widely squares my Ascendant ~ sometimes I forget the two are in aspect. Actually, a lot of your descriptions fit, more so now that I’m older.

    • More Saturnine with age 🙂 Fits.

  • sereleaf

    partner

  • sereleaf

    Cancer ASC trine saturn conj moon in the fifth
    Much of this applied to me, some I project onto my child and oartner

    Thank you — very interesting and I love your writing style.

    • Thanks for reading, sereleaf.

  • taostaos

    Hi, Saturn 16 degrees conjunct ascendant Virgo 11 degrees (Leo sun 2 degrees (conjunct Pluto in 12th house), Sag Moon 28 degrees)…cool venus uranus conjunction in 10th house of cancer, saturn certainly in Virgo has made me a nervous stomach type, serious but a big laugh, a teacher of children, a professional dancer and choreographer, a painter in my later years of landscapes, portraits and Gods and Monsters…prefer choreographing and teaching to performing, though class is a big performance space and I teach my students how to perform…art work is colorful…addicted to fantasy, imagination and sci fi…adore reading and writing…small physique..small face and features…excellent health except for (guess….)…long marriage….strong children…tread heavy and confident…withdraw from others and let them play their cards first…otb from taostaos.com….hard worker
    gardener laid back…loves comfortable attire…musician..

  • lucy snow

    I have Scorpio Ascendant opposite Taurus Saturn.

  • Ludwig Hess Von Buss Strümpell

    Gauntness. Pale, grim, and skinny. Bony. Tight expression. Difficulty reaching out to others. Confronting the other makes you contract. Contracting presence. Contracting in confrontation.

    The ability to take your version seriously despite opposition. The ability to go the distance with your viewpoint. The ability to cut through superficiality. The ability to consider long-term implications of choosing a direction in life. The ability to plan ahead. The ability to take your time.

    Respectful of personal boundaries. Respectful of other people’s situations. Wanting respect in return. Wanting to be respected. Wanting to be taken seriously. Looking forward to getting older. Fears of failure

    I agree with allthese statements, but not with the statement that there is a lack of personality in Saturn-Asc, on the contrary, there is too much “earth” on this aspect. A very good post! I have never thought about all these characteristics on this aspect, and I have a biquintile Saturn Ascendant, in Capricorn.

  • Lillian

    I have Saturn opposite ascendant 0.6° and i can relate to most of things here, which is weird because i am at the same time very serious and crazy. I just want to learn how to interpret my whole chart because it is full of contrasts

  • Z

    do you see the look in the mans eyes in the picture above? this is the way i look! my eyes squeezed, eyebrowes together, skinny, and tall, but pale. even if my saggi moon can tell you that i am childish, i can seem very grumpy and worried. i ve got libra asc trine saturn capricorn.

    • Thanks for sharing, Z. I love the picture. Even the hat looks like the rings of Saturn.

  • awake

    absolutely accurate. thankyou.

    • What sign are your Saturn and ascendant in?

  • Lilian

    I have Saturn opposite ascendant 0.6° and i can relate to most of things here, which is weird because i am at the same time very serious and crazy. I just want to learn how to interpret my whole chart because it is full of contrasts.

  • Will

    This was spot on for me. Cap asc. Sun Saturn opposition.

  • • • •

    I’ve got a sextile (4 degree orb) and sorry to say this didn’t resonate much. I’d say 2/3 of this doesn’t fit. Is this write-up for hard aspects only? Thanks!

    • lulu

      I have saturn in the first house in scorpio and some of this resonated but not much…but, I also have Neptune in the first…I have a Libra asc with saturn and neptune conj the asc. Much of this felt reigh for me when I was an early teen but not so much after that…

      • Have you ever looked at your chart using whole signs? That would put your Saturn in the 2nd house.

    • Is Saturn in the same sign as your ascendant?