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How to Find All the Liliths in Your Birth Chart

The Liliths

Dark Moon Lilith, Black Moon Lilith, osculating Lilith & Asteroid Lilith

Only Asteroid Lilith is an actual physical body. Two of the Liliths are theoretical points. The Waldemath Black Moon may or may not be a real body. Then, there is the fixed star Algol which is also associated with Lilith.

Black Moon Lilith glyph
Black Moon Lilith is also known as Mean Lilith.

This Lilith uses the average orbit of the theoretical Black Moon. This is why she is called mean Lilith. “Mean” refers to the average, not her temperament.

Black Moon Lilith glyphOsculating Lilith is also called True Lilith
Her orbit oscillates wildly this is why she is called true Lilith. This Lilith uses the actual, real orbit of the Black Moon rather than the average. This is another theoretical point.

Some astrologers, like Juan Antonio Revilla, believe that True Lilith is the most important Lilith and most accurately portrays Lilith’s uncontrollable nature.

Mean and True Lilith share the same glyph. The Mean Lilith glyph usually has an ‘M’ next to it, while the True Lilith glyph usually appears next to a ‘T’.

asteroid-lilith-glyphAsteroid Lilith is the only Lilith that is an actual, verifiable physical body.

 

dark moon lilith glyphDark Moon Lilith is also called the Waltemath Black Moon, or Waldemath Black Moon.

Some people have claimed to have seen this Moon, but those claims cannot be substantiated.

To find your Liliths

The old astro.com instructions no longer work (2024).

1181, h12, h13, h58

  • Asteroid Lilith: 1181
  • Black Moon Lilith/ Mean Lilith: h12
  • Osculating Lilith/ True Lilith: h13
  • Dark Moon Lilith/ Waldemath Black Moon: h58

...and the Jacobson Lilith. Plus, Algol and Priapus.

The fixed star Algol is at a fairly steady 26 Taurus. Algol is a star in the head of Medusa in the constellation Perseus. Priapus is H22, and H21 is the fifth theoretical Lilith. Ivy M. Goldstein-Jacobson also has a Lilith, known as the Jacobson Lilith; calculations and ephemeris are in her book, The Dark Moon Lilith in Astrology.


Lilith, discovered by Dr. Waltemath and publicly announced on January 22nd 1897, was named by Walter Gornold, known to the Astrological world by his pen name Sepharial, who interpreted the dark satellite as obstructive and fatal.
— Mae R. Wilson-Ludlam, Lilith Insight

Medusa #149 - Snake-headed Gorgon

  • Cunning One
  • Beautiful daughter of Phorcys, who offended the goddess Athene
  • Beheaded by Perseus
  • Flayed by Athene
  • The Gorgons frightened strangers from pursuing the Mysteries of the Nereids
  • Greek bakers would paint Gorgon masks on their ovens to prevent snoopers from opening the door and ruining the bake
  • Head of snakes
  • Turns her enemies to stone with just a glance
  • Daughter of Ceto and Phorcys
  • Killed by Perseus
  • Sister to Gorgons, Stheino ("strong"), and Euryale ("wide-roaming")
  • Sworn enemy of Pallas Athene
  • Victim of Neptune (Poseidon)
  • Guardian of Mysteries
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The Liliths

Dark Moon Lilith, Black Moon Lilith, osculating Lilith & Asteroid Lilith

Only Asteroid Lilith is an actual physical body. Two of the Liliths are theoretical points. The Waldemath Black Moon may or may not be a real body. Then, there is the fixed star Algol which is also associated with Lilith.

Black Moon Lilith glyph
Black Moon Lilith is also known as Mean Lilith.

This Lilith uses the average orbit of the theoretical Black Moon. This is why she is called mean Lilith. “Mean” refers to the average, not her temperament.

Black Moon Lilith glyphOsculating Lilith is also called True Lilith
Her orbit oscillates wildly this is why she is called true Lilith. This Lilith uses the actual, real orbit of the Black Moon rather than the average. This is another theoretical point.

Some astrologers, like Juan Antonio Revilla, believe that True Lilith is the most important Lilith and most accurately portrays Lilith’s uncontrollable nature.

Mean and True Lilith share the same glyph. The Mean Lilith glyph usually has an ‘M’ next to it, while the True Lilith glyph usually appears next to a ‘T’.

asteroid-lilith-glyphAsteroid Lilith is the only Lilith that is an actual, verifiable physical body.

 

dark moon lilith glyphDark Moon Lilith is also called the Waltemath Black Moon, or Waldemath Black Moon.

Some people have claimed to have seen this Moon, but those claims cannot be substantiated.

To find your Liliths

The old astro.com instructions no longer work (2024).

1181, h12, h13, h58

  • Asteroid Lilith: 1181
  • Black Moon Lilith/ Mean Lilith: h12
  • Osculating Lilith/ True Lilith: h13
  • Dark Moon Lilith/ Waldemath Black Moon: h58

...and the Jacobson Lilith. Plus, Algol and Priapus.

The fixed star Algol is at a fairly steady 26 Taurus. Algol is a star in the head of Medusa in the constellation Perseus. Priapus is H22, and H21 is the fifth theoretical Lilith. Ivy M. Goldstein-Jacobson also has a Lilith, known as the Jacobson Lilith; calculations and ephemeris are in her book, The Dark Moon Lilith in Astrology.


Lilith, discovered by Dr. Waltemath and publicly announced on January 22nd 1897, was named by Walter Gornold, known to the Astrological world by his pen name Sepharial, who interpreted the dark satellite as obstructive and fatal.
— Mae R. Wilson-Ludlam, Lilith Insight

Medusa #149 - Snake-headed Gorgon

  • Cunning One
  • Beautiful daughter of Phorcys, who offended the goddess Athene
  • Beheaded by Perseus
  • Flayed by Athene
  • The Gorgons frightened strangers from pursuing the Mysteries of the Nereids
  • Greek bakers would paint Gorgon masks on their ovens to prevent snoopers from opening the door and ruining the bake
  • Head of snakes
  • Turns her enemies to stone with just a glance
  • Daughter of Ceto and Phorcys
  • Killed by Perseus
  • Sister to Gorgons, Stheino ("strong"), and Euryale ("wide-roaming")
  • Sworn enemy of Pallas Athene
  • Victim of Neptune (Poseidon)
  • Guardian of Mysteries

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