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Brainstorm: Saturn / Neptune Astrology Aspects

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urning dreams into reality. The realities of fantasy. Practical dreamers. Practical fantasies. Taking concrete steps to realize your dreams. Manifesting your vision of reality. Envisioning your ideal world and taking the steps to create that world. Dissolving reality. Teaching how to dream. Dream instructors. Dream makers. Dreaming your life. Making it up as you go along. Pretending. Creating illusions in plain sight. The fantasy, in plain sight. What is real and what is an illusion? Real life is an illusion. Reality is an illusion. Reality is malleable. Reality is what you make it. Building your ideal life. “Reality” TV. Blurring the lines between what is real and what is false. Acting your way through life. Glamorizing your reality. Trying to make your life seem more magical than it really is.

Otherworldly. Spiritual authority. Spiritual disciplines. Spiritual teachers. Dance, art and music teachers. Skilled musicians. Matter of fact about spirituality. The practical application of a spiritual life. The practical application of the dreaming life. Making practical use of dance, music or other artistic skills. Pragmatic fantasies. Using artistic skills in business. Working hard to develop your artistic skills. Working hard to develop your spiritual and psychic aptitude. Real life psychics. Materialism versus spirituality. Inability to reconcile spiritual longings with practical concerns. Your ideal fantasy life is at odds with your real life. Duties and responsibilities prevent you from fully taking off into flights of fancy. You feel prevented from pursuing dreams. You feel that you aren’t “allowed” to live your ideal life. Something prevents you from letting go. Pessimism and skepticism can prevent you from realizing your dreams. Reality creeps into every fantasy. Fantasy creeps into reality. Everyday life takes on a fantastic narrative. Wanting a storybook life. Fairy tales with life lessons. Austere sublime beauty. Melancholy poetry. Melancholy poets. Time is melting.

The slippery slope of success. Hiding from authority. Undermining authority. Weakening established structures. Lack of ambition. Weak authority figures. Weak boundaries. Lack of boundaries. Deceptive authorities. Authority in a fog. Seeking to escape responsibility. Slipping through the cracks. Escaping the real world. Going to California to live out your dream of being an actor. Escaping to L.A. Fleeing from authorities. Attempting to get away with it. Dropping out. Feelings of futility. Why bother? Pathetic. Listless. Feeling that other people put their responsibilities on you. Taking on too many duties out of an inability to set appropriate boundaries. Feeling responsible for the weak, ill and people who are down on their luck. Empathy for those dealing with depression. Having a hard time coping with life. Having compassion for those who also have a hard time coping with life. Compassionate authority. Relinquishing authority. Giving up. Inability to get your act together. It doesn’t matter. Dissolving matter. Nothing matters. Matter is an illusion. I can’t believe it wasn’t real.

Victims of authority. Being victimized by your father. Dad acts like a victim. Having a weak father. Dad disappeared. Dad was a drunk. Wanting to escape from your father. Idealizing Dad. Dad was an actor. Con men. Victims of “the system.” Tragic figures. Sad music. Depressing fantasies. Self-pity and depression mixed together. Victim mentality and pessimism mixed together. Confusion and rigidity mixed together. Overly sensitive to harsh reality. Inability to take control of your own life. Getting involved with shady men. Seriously shady dealings. Watching the life you have built melt beneath your feet. Getting swept up in someone else’s attempts to structure your life. Looking for someone to give structure to your life. Looking for someone to help you get your feet on the ground. Floating. Ungrounded. Transient. Ephemeral. Free form. Slurry. Fear of the unknown. Afraid of dissolving into nothingness. Master of Illusion.

Saturn / Neptune aspects

The aspect: 1st harmonic, 1/1. This aspect comes from taking the 360 degrees of a circle and dividing by 1, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 1 = 360 x 1 = 360

Basic influence: Intensity and emphasis; focus/focal point; impact. Lack of awareness. Concentration of energy. Fusion. The coming together of unrelated energy. When there are no oppositions, there is a lack of balance in the chart. Skewed viewpoint. Lop-sided emphasis. One-sidedness.

The aspect: 1/20 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 20, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 20 = 18 x 1 = 18

The aspect: 1/12 harmonic. Take the 360 degrees of a circle, and divide by 12, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 12 = 30 x 1 = 30

Basic influence: The natural next step: the next thing that needs to be done; how one thing naturally leads to another; what you should be preparing for next; where things are heading, whether you want them to go there or not. What all your hard work and preparation are for. The next big thing. Natural direction.

What you might be blind to. Something just over your shoulder, out of sight, and beyond the periphery of your vision. A blind spot. The thing that came immediately before and is already nearly forgotten. Efforts at memory. Reclaiming. People who don’t have your best interests at heart. Better work on some yoga moves to look over your shoulder, and behind your back.

The aspect: 1/10 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 10, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 10 = 36 x 1 = 36

The aspect: 1/9 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 9, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 9 = 40 x 1 = 40

See also: Noviles « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 1/8 harmonic. Take the 360 degrees of a circle and divide by 8, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 8 = 45 x 1 = 45

or, take a square, and split it in half

Like this, 360 / 4 = 90 / 2 = 45

The aspect: 1/8 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 8, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 8 = 45° x 1 = 45°.

This aspect is the same as the semi-square.

The aspect: 1/7 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 7 = 51.42857142857143 x 1 = 51.42857142857143

Convert to time = 51°26′

Decimal to Time Calculator (calculatorsoup.com)

See also: Septile series « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 1/6 harmonic. Take the 360 degrees of a circle and divide by 6, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 6 = 60 x 1 = 60

or take a trine, and split it in half

Like this, 360 / 3 = 120 / 2 = 60

Basic influence: Opportunities for positive change; awareness of a time to take positive advantage; opportunities that pass unnoticed without conscious effort. No, there may not be another chance. Learning to be quicker to act on good luck. Learning not to let good things pass you by. Learning that positive experiences require effort too. Positive doesn’t mean passive.

The aspect: 2/10 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 10, then multiply by 2.

Like this, 360 / 10 = 36 x 2 = 72

This aspect is the same as a quintile.

See also: Quintiles « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 1/5 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 5, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 5 = 72 x 1 = 72

Basic influence: Creativity, talents, quirks, special skills.

See also: Quintiles « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 2/9 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 9, then multiply by 2.

Like this, 360 / 9 = 40 x 2 = 80

See also: Noviles « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 1/4 harmonic This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 4, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 4 = 90 x 1 = 90

Basic influence: Dynamic creative tension; inner stress and tension that build until you are forced to find creative solutions. Opportunities to push your limits to greater achievement; inner restlessness and lack of satisfaction that impel you to make changes and push yourself; you are challenged to combine these energies; applying energy to solve a problem; creative problem-solving. Something needs to give.

The aspect: 2/7 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 2.

Like this, 360 / 7 = 51.42857142857143 x 2 = 102.8571428571429

Convert to time = 102° 51’26”

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See also: Septile series « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 3/10 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 10, then multiply by 3.

Like this, 360 / 10 = 36 x 3 = 108

The aspect: 3/9 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 9, then multiply by 3.

Like this, 360 / 9 = 40 x 3 = 120

Same as the trine.

See also: Noviles « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 1/3 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 3, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 3 = 120 x 1 = 120

Basic influence: Flow. Ease. Status quo. Circumstances and characteristics that are not changing. Things that are stable; maintaining peace and tranquility; idleness; good times; use these gifts to your advantage. Negatively, unimpeded flow. Events that cannot be stopped. Unstoppable, sweeping movement like a flood. Lack of self-discipline. Laziness and self-indulgence. Times that are easy, lacking challenge and opportunities for growth. Taking situations for granted. Keeping everything like it is. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

The aspect: 5/8 harmonic. Take the 360 degrees of a circle and divide by 8, then multiply by 5.

Like this, 360 / 8 = 45 x 5 = 135

Basic influence: Blockages. Physical manifestation of problems and accidents. Inner psychological blockages that manifest as outer events. Possibly obfuscation, meaning a period of time, something that happens, or mental confusion or anguish that prevent you from seeing a clear path forward.

See also: Thor’s Hammer « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 2/5 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 5, then multiply by 2.

Like this, 360 / 5 = 72 x 2 = 144

See also: Quintiles « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 5/12 harmonic. Take the 360 degrees of a circle and divide by 12, then multiply by 5.

Like this, 360 / 12 = 30 x 5 = 150

Basic influence: Adjusting expectations; tempering over-enthusiasm and over-reaching; keeping yourself in check; adjusting to meet changing circumstances; doing what you need to do to make things work. Adjusting your attitude. Adjusting your perspective. Doing the best you can in an uncomfortable situation. Developing flexibility and adaptability. Bending, until you almost break. A seesaw, with too much weight on one side, and not enough on the other side.

See also: Quincunx, YOD, Pythagorean Triangle « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 12th harmonic. Quincuxes are 5/12 and semi-sextiles are 1/12.

The term "inconjunct" is often conflated with the word "quincunx" in astrology.

All quincunxes are inconjuncts but not all inconjuncts are quincunxes.

Some inconjuncts are semi-sextiles.

Excerpt from the book Horoscope Symbols by Robert Hand

The aspect: 3/7 harmonic This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 3.

Like this, 360 / 7 = 51.42857142857143 x 3 = 154.2857142857143

Convert to hours, minutes and seconds = 154° 17’ 08”

Decimal to Time Calculator (calculatorsoup.com)

See also: Septile series « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 4/9 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 9, then multiply by 4.

Like this, 360 / 9 = 40 x 4 = 160

See also: Noviles « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 11/24 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle into 15-degree equal segments.

Like this, 360 / 24 = 15

then multiply by 11

Like this, 360 / 24 = 15 x 11 = 165

This aspect does not make sense to me at the moment, but here’s the link.

I would think a quin-decile would take the 360 degrees of a circle, divide by 10, then multiply by 5.

Like this, 360 / 10 = 36 x 5 = 180

This creates an aspect that is exactly the same as an opposition.

5/10 harmonic, which reduces to 1/2 harmonic.

360 / 2 = 180 x 1 = 180

See also: Quindecile – Astrodienst Astrowiki

The aspect: 2nd harmonic, 1/2. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 2, then multiply by 1.

Like this, 360 / 2 = 180 x 1 = 180

Basic influence: Challenges from outside; awareness of other options; opportunities that require you to stretch outside your known boundaries; an opportunity to stand back and reflect; seeing yourself from a distance; putting yourself in someone else’s shoes; seeing yourself through someone else’s eyes. Gaining awareness. Seeing a situation from a new vantage point. Getting distance and gaining perspective.

The aspect: 4/7 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 4.

Like this, 360 / 7 = 51.42857142857143 x 4 = 205.7142857142857

Convert to time = 205°42’51”

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See also: Septile series « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 5/7 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 5.

360 / 7 = 51.42857142857143 x 5 = 257.1428571428571

Convert to time = 257°08’34”

Decimal to Time Calculator (calculatorsoup.com)

See also: Septile series « Alice Portman, Astrologer

The aspect: 5/7 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 5.

360 / 7 = 51.42857142857143 x 5 = 257.1428571428571

Convert to time = 257°08’34”

Decimal to Time Calculator (calculatorsoup.com)

See also: Septile series « Alice Portman, Astrologer

Saturn

  • Cronus, Chronus, Chronos, or Kronos (the word cronos may mean "crow")
  • Father Time
Excerpt from Robert Graves, The Greek Myths :1, 6.b-6.5
  • Crow
  • Sickle
  • Ageing & Maturation
  • Discipline & Restraint
  • Fear & Reality Checks
  • Limitation & Boundaries
  • Making do with less
  • Manifestation & Crystallization
  • Responsibility & Hard Work
  • Seriousness & Gravity
  • Structure & Order
  • Wisdom gained through age & experience
  • Working harder for the same outcome
  • Burden
  • Struggle
  • Lack
  • Scrimping and saving
  • Elder
  • Father Time
  • Grandparent
  • Killjoy
  • Loner
  • Old Fart / Fuddy duddy
  • Old Guard
  • Old Maid  / Cat Lady / Spinster (maybe with Venus or Moon)
  • "Old Soul?" (with Neptune)
  • Rule Maker
  • Stick in the mud
  • The Denied
  • The Establishment
  • The Neglected
  • The Wizened
  • Wise person
  • Brother, and husband, of Rhea
  • Father of Jupiter, Neptune, Pluto, and Chiron
  • Grandfather of Persephone
  • Son of Uranus
  • Youngest of the 7 Titans
  • Jupiter / Saturn make a conjunction every 19.859 years
  • Saturn / Uranus make a conjunction every 45.363 years
  • Saturn / Neptune make a conjunction every 35.87 years
  • Saturn / Pluto make a conjunction every 33.42 years

Neptune

  • He who gives to drink from the wooded mountain (from The Greek Myths, by Robert Graves)
  • Poseidon (Greek counterpart of Neptune)
  • Potidan
  • Dazed & Confused
  • Disappointed & Longing
  • Dreamer & Visionary
  • Ethereal & Psychic
  • Evasive & Transient
  • Poetic & Artistic
  • Refined & Exquisite
  • Smooth & Eroding
  • Vast & Boundless
  • Sleazy
  • Mooch
  • Mystical
  • Abstractionist
  • Artist
  • DJ
  • Dreamer
  • Drifter
  • Poet
  • Musician
  • Nurse
  • Sensitive soul
  • Lost person
  • Druggie
  • Spiritual guide
  • Mystical guide
  • Filmmaker
  • Visionary
  • Brother to Jupiter and Pluto
  • Grandson of Uranus
  • Seducer of many (including many unwanted and unasked for seductions)
  • Son of Saturn
  • Wooer of Venus
  • Jupiter / Neptune make a conjunction every 12.8 years
  • Saturn  / Neptune make a conjunction every 35.87 years
  • Uranus  / Neptune make a conjunction every 171.403 years
  • Neptune / Pluto make a conjunction every 492.328 years

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