Sun/Mercury Aspects
Self-identified tricksters. People who identify with for their thoughts. Over-identification with your own thoughts. Self-absorbed thought patterns. Thinking about yourself. Fusing together your identity and the way you think. Becoming overly fond of your own ideas. You are what you think. I think therefore I am. I am my thoughts. Thinking and being fused together. Self-identified nervous wrecks. To exist is to communicate. Communicating is part of who you are. Talkers. To be yourself you must find a way to communicate. The method of communication you choose defines you. You realize yourself by expressing your thoughts. You find out who you are through your ability to express yourself clearly. You have to speak up for yourself. You have to speak up on your own behalf. You must learn to let the world know who you are and what you want.
Exploring communication methods gives you the tools you need to become better aware of who you are. The more clearly you communicate the better people understand what you are really about. Clear communication affects your vitality. Clear communication affects your ability to be creative. Clear communication influences how much you feel like yourself. Frustration comes through poor communication skills. Writing, speaking, teaching and listening are skills that, when developed, encourage personal growth. You identify yourself as a writer, teacher, instructor, blogger, or person who has something important to say. You may give more weight to your words than is warranted. Myopic. Can’t see past the end of your nose. You are so closely identified with your own thoughts that it never occurs to you that you might be wrong. If someone challenges your viewpoint it feels as if they are challenging you. Ego and thoughts wrapped up together. Lack of objectivity. Needing to communicate who you are.
People for whom affirmations work. Cultivating the habit of being consciously aware of what you are thinking. Developing mindfulness. A relentless inner monologue. Having an internal narrator. Being consciously aware of the tendency to narrate your life as you are living it. Writing an autobiography. Being so wrapped up in thinking about yourself that you are never fully present in your own life. Spending a lot of time thinking about what people think about you. Spending a lot of time thinking about yourself. Self-centered thought patterns. Because there is such a strong link between your mind and who you are your words match your core self. Impossible to separate how you think from who you are. Curiosity.
Inability to keep your attention focused. Scattered objectives. In addition to communicating through spoken language, communicating through body language in the form of being a dancer, using physical gestures are moving around a lot of possibilities. Comedians who use slapstick or physical gags. Mimics. Impersonators. People who like puzzles, games and solving riddles. Storytellers. Salespeople. Hawkers. Barkers. Carnies. Ad men. Talking heads. News anchors. Taxi drivers. Bus drivers. Chauffeurs. People who like to bike around town. Skateboarders.
Sibling relationships have a strong influence on who you are. You identify with your siblings. Dad strongly identified with his own thoughts. Dad was a thinker. Dad likes games. Dad lacks objectivity. Dad had a strong relationship with a sibling. One of your father’s siblings had a strong influence over him. Your father has manual dexterity. Your father works with his hands. Your father shines through his intellect. Dad is a reader.
- If Mercury is 8.5 to 17 degrees from the Sun it is “under the Sun’s beams.”
- If Mercury is 8.5 degrees from the Sun it is “combust.”
- If Mercury is 17′ from the Sun it is “cazimi.”
My mercury and sun are about as far part as they get – 27deg37minutes. What significance do you think this has?
Good question. Are they still in the same sign?
Reminds me of a quote from the linguist theorist, Ludwig Wittgenstein: “The limit of my language means the limits of my world.”
That’s fantastic. I think that could also refer to Mercury/Saturn aspects.
The ability or inability to focus/concentrate.
Ease of speech or speech impediments. Stuttering. Lisping. Spoonerisms.
Ease with foreign languages. Ease with music–written and aural.
Extremely sensitive hearing or hearing loss/tinnitus.
The ability or inability to read easily. Scholastic ease or developmental blockages.
Thought processes that are logical or illogical.
Staying calm/logical in an argument or debate. Staying calm/logical during an emergency.
I like that. I’ve always had an ease with foreign languages. I really feel how the grammar rules of a language “fit” together. I haven’t thought about it, but I am good at staying calm in an argument or a debate. It’s usually when I’m by myself that I freak out.
In debates (especially academic ones, ones in the classroom), I don’t have trouble maintaining… not detached, but objective to the argument and can be insensitive. I don’t like it when people bring up sentimental examples.
I am kind of “obsessed” with words, linguistics, rhetoric. When writing creatively or academically, I am meticulous with words. I am frustrated when people don’t give me the information I need. I sometimes feel like I “over-explain” things to be safe because I often feel as if people don’t completely *grasp* the message I’m trying to express, even when I feel I’m being so careful and precise.
It’s funny you mention bad hearing. I don’t have hearing loss, but my hearing isn’t so great. It’s so frustrating when people mumble! I also feel frustrated when people just refuse to repeat themselves because they’re annoyed. To me, the point of speaking is to communicate — to deliver a message to another person. When people do that, I feel like… I’m being denied information I need and they’re cutting our communication short. I don’t know, this is a little egocentric, but whatevz.
- Sun conjunct Mercury in Taurus, opposite Pluto
- Neptune and Uranus in the 3rd house
- Gemini ruling the 9th and Jupiter in the 9th
Wow Christine, I loved your response! I have this aspect in my progressed chart (P. Sun conjunct P. Mercury in Taurus) you’ve described for me not only the progessed aspect but in a way, how that is blended with my natal Mercury.
We both share Neptune in the 3rd and I have Mercury in Pisces opposite Pluto.
It’s so frustrating when people mumble! I also feel frustrated when people just refuse to repeat themselves because they’re annoyed.
I get so annoyed when I have to repeat myself! Lol… but it reminds me to speak up. It’s unfair if someone has to strain to hear me. I know I can’t stand it when I have to strain to hear other people.
I think some of those suggestions would involve other planets but I’m glad you shared your ideas Triplecardinal. If someone had a close Mercury/Sun conjunction in the 3rd house facility with language would go through the roof, versus someone with that close conjunction in the 7th house – although, the 7th house person might have a knack with the language of relationships – talking, thinking, or even counseling about relationships rather than speaking several languages. Just a thought
Sun-Mercury in Virgo. This is my tightest aspect, with an orb of less than 1. I can certainly relate to the idea of identifying with one’s thoughts, but I don’t believe that I hold tend to hold on to my idea to the exclusion of better ones. And I’ve never been one who has had a problem admitting to being wrong. If anything, my default is often to just assume I am wrong about something.
I DO think that I can have a tendency to feel as thought I am being being challenged or that my entire being is being rejected when my ideas are rejected. Not always, but sometimes, yes. I can definitely feel frustrated when people don’t seem to grasp what I am trying to communicate because I feel that I communicate very clearly and I pride myself on trying to employ precise language.
Hm… interesting Ebonystarr55.
Do you start picking the other person apart if you feel challenged?
I know someone with Mercury in Virgo in the 3rd house who does – though, her Mercury is conjunct Mars and Pluto, so….
My Sun-Mercury conjunction trines my Mars in Taurus. I don’t really like conflict. I will normally just go along with the other person’s ideas just to keep the peace. I might feel slightly deflated and I hate looking stupid in front of others, but my larger goal is the keep the peace. My Sun-Mercury conjunction is in my 2nd House. I can honestly say that I don’t really do the stereotypical critical Virgo thing. I mostly don’t like to hurt other people’s feelings, so I generally keep my opinions to myself – even when asked.
Up until now, I don’t think I’d realized my Mercury was within orb (just barely) of being conjunct my Sun – maybe I just didn’t want to admit to myself how much I identify with my “thoughts” – lol! It’s an out-of-sign conjunction and Neptune is part of it, so I’m either very sure of what I’m thinking/feeling, or not at all sure. If I strongly believe in something, I can sell it.
I love dance as a means of self-expression and also love to walk about town, exploring. My husband says I talk with my hands. I’m a natural mimic and love puzzles like Sudoku.
My dad was super intelligent, a voracious reader who loved to debate/argue. Unlike me, my father was always articulate and never at a loss for words. I prefer writing over speaking, unless I’m fired up. And I’ve learned to HATE debating; most of the time it seems pointless. He was a Scorpio and my Mercury is in Scorpio.
I wonder who it is that really does love debating? I wouldn’t Sun/Mercury did unless there was something else going on.
One of the things I could have written but didn’t think of until just now is “speaking from the heart.”
“Speaking from the heart” sounds like a good description – I’d like to think I try to do that.
As far as who loves debating, look no further than politics or the law.. But I guess that would be more of a Jupiter and/or 9th house thing. My Dad had his retrograde Mercury in Sag opposite his Moon in Gemini (his Mercury was also quintile Jupiter and biquintile Pluto) – he definitely loved to argue, even when he wasn’t fully informed!
I think it probably is a 9th house thing too, though – I have Jupiter in the 9th house and I can’t stand it.
My Mars is in the 9th and Jupiter on the 3rd, and I agree. I value truth over debate, unless of course it’s a friendly discussion about the pros and cons. It’s when the facts get twisted (or omitted) that I lose interest.
I have Tropical Sun Scorpio 24 conjunct Mercury Scorpio 29
I don’t communicate well verbally. I tend be a nervous/anxious person and I tend to fall over my words/blank out when I speak, except for on certain rare occasions. Writing,Visual representations, body language (I talk with my hands,eyes,etc.)music,dance etc are my preferred form of expression. I also get lost in my own thoughts and tune people out, which I don’t mean to do,but it just what happens. I have a poor attention span and I seriously believe I have Inattentive ADHD.
“Having an internal narrator”….LOL! I love this! I tend to get into arguements with myself or I like to joke about the voices in my head speaking in different languages….FYI…I’m terrible at learning languages and accents which makes it even funnier…too me anyway.
I love jokes,games,puzzles,riddles….I can’t tell a story or joke verbally at all. I tend to be very curious/nosey about things.
I only met my real father maybe 4 times in my life.
My stepfather was a Leo, bipolar/alcoholic, had an identity crisis, an artist/very creative and he left around when I was 13years. I never saw him again.
I admire my siblings from a distance,but we’re not close. We all love eachother still. They’re both 10-15 years older than me.
“Having an internal narrator”….LOL! I love this!
Lol…I finally learned to shut her up!
=-D Not an easy task to say the least.
I have mercury combust sun, very common with everyone else. The idea of mercury circling the sun is like a mind over spirit. The mind could trick spirit and make it shine to a wrong direction
My Mercury is combust too.
So if your Mercury is more than 17 degrees away is it “just out there”? lol
Seems like it, aspect-wise at least. Though, there still are all the smaller aspects, like the vigintile (which is 18 degrees).
Ah, that just might be missing piece to the puzzle. My Mercury is within 1 degree orb to my Sun in forming the vigintile aspect.
Joyrjw has been making me pay more attention to the smaller aspects. The smaller divisions might be more esoteric and difficult to define but they probably still exert an influence.
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I love debating, why not? I am clever especially to topic that suites my interest.
I love psychic activities.
You must have a Gemini influence.
Mercury rx in libra 0 degrees conjunct sun and mars (also in libra). Located in my 12th house. Communicating clearly and articulating my thoughts is a struggle
How about meditation?