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Brainstorm: Saturn / Chiron Astrology Aspects

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ears of being in a position of authority, yet wanting to be an authority on something. Feeling that people don’t take you seriously, yet taking yourself very seriously. Having trouble earning respect. Respect is all-important. Extremely rigid and formal behaviors to deflect attention from deep sensitivity. Having a rigid internal voice of authority. Keeping yourself in line. Not needing to be disciplined because you discipline yourself. Keeping yourself on task. Having an internal disciplinarian. Having an internal authority. Internalizing the voice of your father. Purposely avoiding responsibilities and maturation. Putting too much power into the hands of external authorities, or being extremely skeptical of external authorities. Dreading the duties and burdens that positions of authority bring. Dreading the responsibilities that maturity brings. Lessons learned through trusting your own authority. Attitudes to authority that are passed down through members of a family. Lessons learned through examining your attitude toward authority figures in your life. Lack of responsibility or too much responsibility. Lessons learned through taking responsibility for yourself.

Natives with aspects between Chiron and Saturn experience breakthrough from Earth forms and linear time to creativity, but like all breakthroughs, it is hard work.
― Barbara Hand Clow, Chiron: Rainbow Bridge Between Inner and Outer Planets

Disliking to be questioned about whether or not you are right. Fear of being judged, yet being judgmental of others. Fear of getting it wrong. Feeling that you are always wrong. Trying to heal the incessant negative voice within. Learning how to stop the litany of self-defeating messages that you send yourself. Being your own cruel mistress. Using seriousness as a way to deflect people from probing into your feelings. Taking yourself too seriously as a defense mechanism. Getting defensive about learning and mastery. Having issues with people in a position to teach you something, or having issues with your ability to teach others. Learning problems that are passed down. Wisdom gained through lightening-up. Wisdom gained through not taking yourself so seriously. Wisdom gained through being gentler with yourself when things go wrong. Wisdom gained through developing flexibility. Wisdom gained through easing up on too high standards and expectations for yourself and others. Wisdom gained through accepting limits. Learning to use limits to your advantage.

Perceiving limitations as greater than or less than what they really are. Locked in a self-imposed box. Carrying depression as a wound. Carrying loneliness as a wound. Having depression as a family trait that gets passed down. Being able to deal with depression more easily as you get older. Lessons learned through dealing with depression. Gaining inner wisdom through overcoming habits of self-limitation. Inner wisdom gained through periods of isolation. Sensitivity to those suffering from depression, loneliness or feelings of isolation. Sensitivity to those who feel abandoned.

When Chiron is in aspect to Saturn, we usually must encounter our own fear, rigidity and contempt for others as well as our inherited or collective attitudes of repressiveness and ultra-conservativism; we might feel deeply ashamed when these qualities are first discovered inside ourselves.
― Melanie Reinhart, Chiron and the Healing Journey

Father issues. Having an ill, weak or ‘wounded’ father. Seeing your father as a mentor or teacher. Your father is trying to recover from his own wounds. Your father has had to bear some hurt or pain throughout his life. Dad suffered from depression. Dad suffered from fears, inhibition and feelings that he wasn’t good enough. Dad felt that he never lived up to expectations. Your father feels like a failure. Your father is hard on himself. Your father may not be able to get up and dust himself off when he falls. A male legacy of not being good enough. A family pattern of male workaholics. A family pattern of ‘masters’ in a particular field. A pattern of family members who have impossible standards and expectations for themselves. A pattern of family members who feel lonely or isolated. Your father was unable to act as your father for some reason. Having had a strict father. There were rules and regulations to be followed or there was a lack of rules of regulations. Separations from men. Feeling that you had to be your own father because your real father was unable to fulfill the role. Trying to heal wounds with your father. Fearing that you will not reach your father’s expectations. Feeling the pain of separation from your father. Inability to mature fully until father issues are resolved.

Fear of not meeting expectations. Purposely failing so people will no longer expect great things of you. Purposely failing to avoid taking responsibility. Being extremely hard on yourself when you don’t reach expectations. Pretending that you don’t care or that it didn’t matter anyway. Overwhelmed by standards and expectations. Extreme sensitivity to failure. Not wanting to disappoint those people whose opinions you respect. Extreme sensitivity to people’s expectations. Learning that there are many failures on the road to success. Failure is part of success. Not letting failure make you fearful of putting yourself out there. Gaining wisdom through overcoming inhibition. Letting time be on your side. Learning to see obstacles and setbacks as part of progress and forward movement. Time heals all wounds. It can take a long time for your wounds to heal.

The key to healing is gentle discipline. The key to healing is resolving issues with your father, step-father or other male authority figures in your life. The key to healing is creating a healthy, flexible routine. The key to healing is getting out of your own way. The key to healing is seeing obstacles as part of your path instead of being in the way of your path. The key to healing is wanting to tackle fascinating problems. The key to healing is letting go of an adherence to rules that no longer apply. Wholeness comes through reconciling inner and outer voices of authority and their influence over your life.

Saturn / Chiron Aspects

1st harmonic, 1/1. This aspect comes from taking the 360 degrees of a circle and dividing by 1, then multiplying by 1. Like this, 360 / 1 = 360 x 1 = 360.

Intensity and emphasis; focus/focal point; impact. Lack of awareness. Concentration of energy. Fusion. Fusing disparate energies together.

1/20 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 20, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 20 = 18 x 1 = 18.

1/12 harmonic. Take the 360 degrees of a circle, and divide by 12, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 12 = 30 x 1 = 30 . Or, 360 / 6 = 60 / 2 = 30 (half a sextile).

The natural next step; the next thing that needs to be done; how one thing naturally leads to another; what you should be preparing for next; where things are heading, whether you want them to go there or not. What all your hard work and preparation are for. The next big thing. Natural direction.

What you might be blind to. Something just over your shoulder, out of sight, and beyond the periphery of your vision. A blindspot. The thing that came immediately before, and is already nearly forgotten. Efforts at memory. Reclaiming. People who don’t have your best interests at heart. Better work on some yoga moves to look over your shoulder, and behind your back.

1/10 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 10, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 10 = 36 x 1 = 36.

1/9 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 9, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 9 = 40 x 1 = 40.

1/8 harmonic. Take the 360 degrees of a circle and divide by 8, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 8 = 45 x 1 = 45. Or, take a square, and split it in half. Like this, 360 / 4 = 90 / 2 = 45.

1/8 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 8, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 8 = 45° x 1 = 45°. This aspect is the same as the semi-square.

Some of the posts may show the octile at 90°. This is a known error and I’m working on fixing it, but I have to edit each post individually, and that takes more time than I have right now!

1/7 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 7 = 51.26° x 1 = 51.26°.

1/6 harmonic. Take the 360 degrees of a circle and divide by 6, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 6 = 60 x 1 = 60. Or, take a trine, and split it in half.  Like this, 360 / 3 = 120 / 2 = 60.

Opportunities for positive change; awareness of a time to take positive advantage; opportunities that pass unnoticed without conscious effort. No, there may not be another chance. Learning to be quicker to act on good luck. Learning not to let good things pass you by. Learning that positive experiences require effort too. Positive doesn’t mean passive.

This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 10, then multiplying by 2. Like this, 360 / 10 = 36 x 2 = 72. This aspect is the same as a quintile.

1/5 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 5, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 5 = 72 x 1 = 72.

Creativity, talents, quirks, special skills.

2/9 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 9, then multiplying by 2. Like this, 360 / 9 = 40 x 2 = 80.

1/4 harmonic This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 4, then multiplying by 1. Like this, 360 / 4 = 90 x 1 = 90.

Dynamic creative tension; inner stress and tension that build until you are forced to find creative solutions. Opportunities to push your limits to greater achievement; inner restlessness and lack of satisfaction that impel you to make changes and push yourself; you are challenged to combine these energies; applying energy to solve a problem; creative problem-solving. Internal stress and tension. Something needs to give.

2/7 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 2. Like this, 360 / 7 = 51.26° x 2 = 102° 51’26”.

This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 10, then multiply by 3. Like this, 360 / 10 = 36 x 3 = 108.

This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 9 , then multiply by 3. Like this, 360 / 9 = 40 x 3 = 120.

Same as the trine.

1/3 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 3, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 3 = 120 x 1 = 120.

Flow. Ease. Status quo. Circumstances and characteristics that are not changing. Things that are stable; maintaining the status quo; peace and tranquility; idleness; good times; use these gifts to your advantage. Negatively, unimpeded flow. Events that cannot be stopped. Unstoppable, sweeping movement. Lack of self-discipline. Laziness and self-indulgence. Times that are easy, lacking challenge and opportunities for growth. Taking situations for granted. Keeping everything like it is. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

5/8 harmonic. Take the 360 degrees of a circle and divide by 8, then multiply by 5. Like this, 360 / 8 = 45 x 5 = 135.

Blockages. Physical manifestation of problems and accidents. Inner psychological blockages that manifest as outer events.

2/5 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 5, then multiply by 2. Like this, 360 / 5 = 72 x 2 = 144.

5/12 harmonic. Take the 360 degrees of a circle and divide by 12, then multiply by 5. Like this, 360 / 12 = 30 x 5 = 150.

Adjusting expectations; tempering over-enthusiasm and over-reaching; keeping yourself in check; adjusting to meet changing circumstances; doing what you need to do to make things work. Adjusting your attitude. Adjusting your perspective. Making-do in uncomfortable situations. Developing flexibility and adaptability. Bending, until you almost break. A see-saw, with too much weight on one side, and not enough on the other side.

The term “inconjunct” is often conflated with the word “quincunx” in astrology. All quincunxes are inconjuncts but not all inconjuncts are quincunxes. Some inconjuncts are semi-sextiles.

Excerpt from the book Horoscope Symbols by Robert Hand

3/7 harmonic This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 3. Like this, 360 / 7 = 51.26° x 3 = 154° 17’ 08”.

4/9 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 9, then multiply by 4. Like this, 360 / 9 = 40 x 4 = 160.

11/24 harmonic. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle into 15-degree equal segments. Like this, 360 / 24 = 15, then multiply by 11.  Like this, 360 / 24 = 15 x 11 = 165.

This aspect does not make sense to me at the moment, but here’s the link.

I would think a quin-decile would take the 360 degrees of a circle, divide by 10, then multiply by 5. Like this 360 / 10 = 36 x 5 = 180. Which is exactly the same as an opposition, because it is a 5/10 harmonic, which reduces to 1/2 harmonic. 360 / 2 = 180 x 1 = 180.

2nd harmonic, 1/2. This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 2, then multiply by 1. Like this, 360 / 2 = 180 x 1 = 180.

Challenges from outside; awareness of other options; opportunities that require you to stretch outside your known boundaries; an opportunity to stand back and reflect; seeing yourself from a distance; putting yourself in someone else’s shoes; seeing yourself through someone else’s eyes. Gaining awareness. Seeing a situation from a new vantage point. Getting distance, and gaining perspective.

This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 4.

This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 5.

This aspect comes from dividing the 360 degrees of a circle by 7, then multiply by 6.

Saturn

  • Cronus, Chronus, Chronos, or Kronos (the word cronos may mean "crow")
  • Father Time
Excerpt from Robert Graves, The Greek Myths :1, 6.b-6.5
  • Ageing & Maturation
  • Discipline & Restraint
  • Fear & Reality Checks
  • Limitation & Boundaries
  • Making do with less
  • Manifestation & Crystallization
  • Responsibility & Hard Work
  • Seriousness & Gravity
  • Structure & Order
  • Wisdom gained through age & experience
  • Working harder for the same outcome
  • Burden
  • Struggle
  • Lack
  • Scrimping and saving
  • Crow
  • Sickle
  • Brother, and husband, of Rhea
  • Father of Jupiter, Neptune, Pluto, and Chiron
  • Grandfather of Persephone
  • Son of Uranus
  • Youngest of the 7 Titans
  • Jupiter / Saturn make a conjunction every 19.859 years
  • Saturn / Uranus make a conjunction every 45.363 years
  • Saturn / Neptune make a conjunction every 35.87 years
  • Saturn / Pluto make a conjunction every 33.42 years
  • Elder
  • Father Time
  • Grandparent
  • Killjoy
  • Loner
  • Old Fart / Fuddy duddy
  • Old Guard
  • Old Maid  / Cat Lady / Spinster (maybe with Venus or Moon)
  • "Old Soul?" (with Neptune)
  • Rule Maker
  • Stick in the mud
  • The Denied
  • The Establishment
  • The Neglected
  • The Wizened
  • Wise person
The Greek Myths: Volumes 1 & 2, by Robert Graves
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Chiron #2060

  • Cheiron
  • The Wounded Healer
  • Alternative medicine
  • Bridge
  • Chronic pain
  • Coping
  • Damage / Hit points
  • Exhaustion
  • Fatigue
  • Guide
  • Hands, healing hand (Cheiron means 'hand')
  • Healing & Wholeness
  • Healing psychic wounds of rejection, restoring spirit to body (from the Centaur Report)
  • Identity crisis?
  • Injury
  • Key
  • Learning
  • Loophole
  • Maverick
  • Mentor / Teacher - and having your pupils turn against you, even if it's unintentional on their part
  • Putting the 'Chiron' in chronic pain
  • Quest
  • Reaching the limit of your abilities & realizing it's time to move on from a particular path, calling, or profession
  • Rejection by your parents
  • 'Right to die' issues
  • Unsolvable problem
  • Worn out
  • Wounded
Many of the Chiron keywords above generously supplied by Zane B. Stein, from his book, Essence and Application: A View from Chiron.
  • Centaur
  • Shot by his pupil, Heracles, with an arrow poisoned with the blood of the Hydra
  • He was shot in either the foot or the thigh
  • Spent the rest of his life trying to alleve the pain of the wound
  • He willingly gave up immortality to die and escape chronic pain
  • Associate of the Centaurs: Pholus, Nessus
  • Father of Euippe
  • Grandson of Uranus
  • Husband of Chariklo
  • Son of Saturn (Cronus, Chronos, Kronos)
  • Son of Philyra
  • Teacher of heroes (Asclepius, Aristaeus, Actaeon, Achilles, Jason, Medus) Source
  • Victim of the Hydra. The arrow that hit Chiron was poisoned with the Hydra's blood (each time you cut one of the Hydra's heads off, two new heads grow).
Chiron is both a minor planet and a comet. It is located between Saturn and Uranus. Chiron takes about 50 years to make one complete cycle through all the signs of the zodiac. Chiron is in Libra for the shortest amount of time – 1.5 years; and in Aries the longest – about 8 years.