The South Node: Doing the Predictable

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Instead of visiting the Guidance Counselor for help with career direction in high school, I wish I had visited an astrologer. I feel so betrayed upon realizing that my college degree is right in line with my South Node. In fact, my jobs since getting my degree have been in line with my SN too. I guess it’s not coincidental that they’ve been unsatisfying.

Taurus South Node in 9H:

  • Desire for career in fine art, unprecedented in family
  • Oil Painting degree
  • Art model
  • Director of art school
  • Seen as an artistic type (Venus, dispositor of Taurus, at the Aries Point in 7H)
  • Understand abstract concepts that have no relevance to everyday life

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How annoying. When I decided to major in art, I had within me the sense that understanding art was important. I felt that if I did not have a solid appreciation of art, my life would be incomplete- I would not achieve what I wanted to achieve in life and I would not be accepted by those people whom I perceived as my peers. Yet, when I completed my degree, I felt that I had just worked very hard for something virtually worthless, and today, I feel like I want nothing to do with an artistic career at all anymore. My degree feels like a hollow, meaningless victory.

Rider-Waite 8 of CupsMaybe by pursuing a degree in the field of my South Node I filled some need to reconnect with a past self, but, in doing so, I did nothing to improve my life this time around. The further I get into art, the more estranged I feel from my life path. Explaining why I don’t want to paint as a career makes my throat tighten- I just don’t want to do it anymore.

In the Tarot, the 8 of Cups signifies abandonment– it’s letting go emotionally of a situation that no longer captivates one’s heart. There is no further benefit from putting one’s heart into a particular situation. The South Node path makes me feel unsatisfied, and that my efforts are futile, so I’m walking away from it. The 8 of Cups accurately portrays how I feel about my South Node at this time.

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  • Peachies

    The first time I read what it means to have north node in Aries, I thought… well sh*t I need to break up with my boyfriend. That was the first time I began to realize how absolutely miserable relationships made me. Each time I got into a new one (fresh out of an old one of course) things would be ok. But as time went on that same old nagging feeling that I was dying inside kept creeping up on me.
    I think what I hate most about relationships is how they bring out the needy, co-dependant, self-sacrificing side of me. I lose focus on my life, my goals, my independance… at around the 7-8 month mark I begin to think “this is what the rest of my life will be like?”… I get anxiety, think about breaking it off, think up reasons for breaking it off, make up reasons… it’s all just a big messy downward spiral.

    It’s because that Aries NN is tightly aspecting my ascendant/venus conjunction in freedom loving sagittarius, and squaring neptune and moon. It’s looking at that moon and saying “grow some balls, listen to your venus and go be free and fearless.”

    It took transitting Uranus passing over my NN to really wake me up to all this. I have never felt so alive.

    I even came up with a dream plan. I’m going to own my own house (that NN is in the 4th house) and my friends and lover(s) can come visit me. They can come over for a little vacation and let me treat them to paradise. My cancer moon can take out its doting instinct on them with cooking and pampering, and when I’m good on that I will send them back to their own home. Then once in a while they can treat me at their place… while I’m not too busy just being myself… or whatever.

    Anyway I hope this makes you feel a little better about your NN. Look on the bright side, at least you can just avoid art and that makes your NN reasonably happy. I have to basically avoid relationships that aren’t totally freedomy and new age. Wanna know how many 20something year old men are into that these days? Like none, pluto in capricorn makes everyone want security and babies!

    • “It took transitting Uranus passing over my NN to really wake me up to all this. I have never felt so alive.”
      That’s awesome.


      Wanna know how many 20something year old men are into that these days? Like none”
      Lol … 🙂

      Awesome response. Totally made me laugh.

  • Anany83

    hi 
    i Have SN in sagi ,in 11house

    i have a desire to teach ,i am attached to social activity,i have a desire to go for higher study,i treat my friends as my brother and sisters,as if the are my family.

    but i have realized that, this will not give me peace.
    i have a feeling that my SN is continually dragging me towards it.I have to give a considerable amount of drive to reach towards my 5th house.
    my SN conjunct neptune,does anybody know what does it mean?

    • Michelle

      One possibility is the urge to lose yourself in the group – possibly to give up your will or ego and surrender to the collective. 

  • AriesGirl

    Soooo true!
    I’ve realized this one year ago, when i left my job that i was heading toward the a wrong direction! But at least I took the courage to change relatively early! IT’s not easy though for sure, but im trying my best also and it’s like I’m becoming a brand new person.

    So, i have Virgo South Node in the 1st house, and I became a journalist! Obviously 🙂 I was also studying soooo much during university/school years, in fact i’ve usually spent my free time studying something new (usually foreign languages).

    It conjuncts my Moon, whihc is the ruler of my 11th, and i think it means that i was living my dreams, instead of going toward my real career and life path!  And obviously, i’ve always preferred to be alone or sitting in front of the PC or being surrounded by books, only to realize now that i want and i need to work with people! 😀

    • Michelle

      You have wonderful insight into your nodes AriesGirl!

      • AriesGirl

        Thanks 😀
        Yea, i really need to find out everything about my life purpose these days, as im going through sooo much change.

        btw. your posts helped a LOT in understanding my Nodes, so thank YOU for your wisdom and keep writing, please 😉

        • Michelle

          🙂

  • Jara

    Why does the S.Node get such a bad rap? It’s so comfy! Why can’t you do what comes naturally to you? Who says you have to grow spiritually? 🙂 Just kidding. So how are you going to work your North Node in Scorpio (I presume)? You wrote this article awhile ago…do you feel closer to your North Node now?

    My South Node in Pisces is in my 3rd house, so I’m learning to take the 9th house more seriously. Maybe that’s why I love your blog.

    • I’m seeing this post after I responded to your other comment – now I see why the Virgo/Pisces nodal axis might bug you.

      I’m going to talk a little about my North Node in the upcoming Scorpio North Node post. Thank you for asking 🙂

  • South Node conjunct Eros must be hard sometimes. Overcoming old patterns takes so much conscious effort.

    Thanks for reading my blog 😀

  • South Node conjunct Eros must be hard sometimes. Overcoming old patterns takes so much conscious effort.

    Thanks for reading my blog 😀

  • oh how i feel the same about my south node (7th house) where eros is in the aries point…. DONE for now… leaving situations and pple behind… a heart that is sick and tired of going back to the same old games …. great blog =]

  • sadgeuk1

    Ha ha ha! : D

  • The water houses (4, 8, 12) are more inward looking than the others (or at least I've read that they are). They seem to draw energy inward. Actually, my 3 planets below the horizon (Pluto, Neptune and Uranus) are the ones that are retrograde.

    Ok 'nuff about me! 😀

  • sadgeuk1

    Wow, that is so interesting. You really are shy! – and with 3 planets in Aries and a Leo moon, and all those planets above the horizon?! Okay, the planets in 4th and 8th would modify that somewhat, plus moon conjunct saturn, but I wouldn't have thought to that extent.

    Oh, are the planets above the horizon predominantly retrograde? That tends to draw the energy inward somewhat.

  • sadgeuk1

    Oh, that makes sense, all the Sadge with mercury square virgo NN. I never thought of it as being about friends – I just thought it meant I had to work a little harder in general. lol. Yes, lots of power struggles with women – and the self-undoing, I can admit to that. It's led to outbursts which led directly to me quitting and getting fired simultaneously when I really couldn't afford to lose my job. Ugh. Shooting yourself in the foot sucks. It's just pluto you know – you get pushed too far and then all hell breaks loose. Oh well. lol.

    Yeah, they probably see me as a big bitch. I really don't mind, lol. As long as they don't try to mess with me, it's fine. ; )

  • Sometimes I take my laptop to a coffee shop and write- but I am a total recluse/ introvert type. I'm capable of being social but I like being home/quiet/private most of the time.

    You know when little kids will pay for things themselves at the store, and talk to the person behind the counter? When I was little I would literally hide behind my parents' legs to avoid talking to strangers and people I didn't know. I'm not outgoing- even with 7 planets above the horizon, 3 planets in Aries, 1 in Sag and a Leo Moon. But…my Aries planets are in the 8th house square Saturn, my Sag planet is in the 4th, and my Moon conjuncts Saturn.

  • I just wonder if all those Sagittarius planets conjunct Mercury square your Virgo North Node. Pluto in Libra in the 12th makes me think of power struggles with women that act as the self-undoing.

    Jupiter conjunct anything makes it bigger. Conjunct Lilith in the 10th could mean that people tend to see you as a big bitch! Lol- I hope you're laughing and not pissed!

  • sadgeuk1

    Also about having 7 planets above the horizon – that's kind of a lot! l do think it would tend to direct your energies towards dealing with the public somehow, even if you don't think you're necessarily an outwardly directed person. You mentioned writing, and that does put you in a public space in certain ways. I would think it means your life energies end up spending more time in the public space, or concerned with the public, as opposed to the private, the home, etc. even if your personality doesn't exactly correspond. Maybe?

  • sadgeuk1

    Wow, you have Saturn in the 11th too!! : D Yes, I am totally the same way – I prefer smaller, more intimate contacts too. Wait, is your Saturn at 26 Cancer, and Chiron is conjunct Mercury at 26-27 Aries? You wrote Chiron twice – it must mean something! ; )

    Hm, yeah, attracting about attracting circles of hate. Virgo is on the cusp of the 11th AND 12th houses. Maybe it's because I have Lilith in Leo conjunct Jupiter in the 10th? Disagreeable, proud female? LOL. My mercury is in Sadge conjunct Sun, Mars, and Neptune. Saturn squares Mercury – do you think that might be it?

    Yes, Pluto in Libra in the 12th. Very good! 😉

  • All of my planets are on the east (?) – the left side of the chart. So every astrologer I've ever been to for a reading has said, “you create your own destiny!”
    I have a hard time relating to the general descriptions of the east/west, above/below horizon descriptions for planet groupings. I have 7 planets above the horizon which is supposed to be mean that I am outwardly directed but I am not- at all. Maybe that's what I am should try to be.

    I think that the North Node in the 11th would need to spend more time connecting with people who have similar interests rather than focusing on developing personal interests. So, working at an organization where you help people (or animals) seems very NN Virgo 11th. The 11th is about large organizations.

    I also have Saturn in the 11th. I have a hard time relating to large groups of people. I really prefer smaller, more intimate contacts. My Chiron at 26 Cancer squares my Mercury-Chiron conjunction at 26-27 Aries in the 8th house.

    Chiron in the 7th would refer to best friends. Attracting hate makes me curious. Is Virgo on the cusp of the 11th? What aspects does Mercury make, and where is it? Do you have Pluto in Libra in the 12th house?

  • sadgeuk1

    Yeah, you're right, of course – regarding the drawbacks of Taurus, which might include feeling stuck or stagnating. And Scorpio is a lot about taking the reins. No one knows your chart better than you do! : ) You know what though? Think about the fact that you are trying to put your consciousness into your journey – and then think about the fact that lots of people don't have the tools (astrology, psychology, etc.) or any interest whatsoever in trying to understand their experience and life direction.

    As for me, ha ha. Ugh. Yes, Virgo North Node in the 11th loosely conjunct Saturn. Not fun! I had hoped to make a living or career out of being a professor, but that has to be put on hold. I don't want to give up on it forever, but, it has to wait – because that requires lots of resources I don't have. Plus, you know, the world is in DESPERATE need of one more religious studies would-be academic. LOL. As I said in an earlier comment, I'm getting my MA in religion, and I hope to work in a nonprofit/charity organization in an administrative capacity. I hope eventually to work towards becoming a grant writer for a nonprofit/charity. I am especially interested in outreach work with young troubled/at-risk teenagers or for animals. Does that sound virgo in the 11th-ish? : ) I don't know if it will work out, but it's where I'm aiming my arrows. You shoot, and hope for the best, right? (Yes, I have a stellium in Sadge).

    You know, it's so funny. There are so many contradictions in astrology. All of my planets are on the east (?) – the left side of the chart. So every astrologer I've ever been to for a reading has said, “you create your own destiny!” And then, my life experience has been such that whenever I actively put everything I've got into a specific future goal, to create my own destiny, if you will, it falls apart in the most crazy way, leading me onto something completely different I had never considered before. Maybe that's Saturn in the 11th? I'm hoping that as I get older, it will get clearer. Who knows? lol.

    One thing about the north node for me, also, is that I probably have to get better in group situations. It has always been so hard for me to make true, close friendships. Usually what happens is, I end up getting close to one or two best friends, which have so far almost always ended up in tears and heartbreak and betrayals of trust. (Chiron in Taurus in the 7th, would rule best friends too, I think?). I know that a lot of my NN work is about learning to network, or at least learn how to be better in group situations. It might even be more this psychological aspect than the whole career thing. I'm one of those people who has a remarkable talent for drawing circles of hate to me rather than circles of friends, lol. I don't know if it's Pluto conjunct Asc. and Uranus in the 1st that makes people decide I'm the weirdo they must hate, but whatever. I like my weirdness! 🙂 LOL.

    Argh, I can't listen to the song, because I”m in Europe. But I get the idea.

    I think that understanding symbolism definitely helps in your understanding of astrology. Plus, a chart is kind of like interpreting a work of art, isn't it? It's a visual thing filled with symbols, and like any good art critique, it requires a keen eye and depth of insight, since the themes are generally about the mysteries of life (and death) – all quite Scorpio, no? : )

  • I agree, but I think that my journey (9th house) into art (Taurus) was perpetuating a state of financial dependency. I'm tired of not having a direction, although I am OK with being on a journey.

    The way that my art education served me was that it expanded my horizons- go figure 😉 I have a much more thorough understanding of symbolism and culture through art than I did before I went to school. I understand time as it relates to the evolution of culture through art.

    It's when we try to control too much is when things go wrong, imho. : )

    I know what you mean, but with a Taurus South Node, there's the problem of being too complacent, and at worst, stuck. My North Node is in Scorpio, and Scorpio is about control to a certain extent. Concerning the North Node, you could say that it is up to me to take control of my direction in this lifetime and not just merrily float down the stream.

    In certain times in my life I've felt what 10,000 Maniacs sang in their song, Like the Weather… ” a dull torpor pulling downwards”- a crippling inertia.

    Here's the song: http://www.lala.com/#song/360569458054744662

    What are you doing with your Virgo North Node in the 11th now? 😀

  • I agree, but I think that my journey (9th house) into art (Taurus) was perpetuating a state of financial dependency. I'm tired of not having a direction, although I am OK with being on a journey.

    The way that my art education served me was that it expanded my horizons- go figure 😉 I have a much more thorough understanding of symbolism and culture through art than I did before I went to school. I understand time as it relates to the evolution of culture through art.

    It's when we try to control too much is when things go wrong, imho. : )

    I know what you mean, but with a Taurus South Node, there's the problem of being too complacent, and at worst, stuck. My North Node is in Scorpio, and Scorpio is about control to a certain extent. Concerning the North Node, you could say that it is up to me to take control of my direction in this lifetime and not just merrily float down the stream.

    In certain times in my life I've felt what 10,000 Maniacs sang in their song, Like the Weather… ” a dull torpor pulling downwards”- a crippling inertia.

    Here's the song: http://www.lala.com/#song/360569458054744662

    What are you doing with your Virgo North Node in the 11th now? 😀

  • sadgeuk1

    Don't be so hard on yourself!! For God's sake, how the hell is anyone supposed to know what to do with their lives at 17 or 18! LOL. I sure didn't – and yes, my education at first totally reflects my south node. (Pisces South Node in the 5th house – I studied art too, but then I dropped out – very appropriate, right? LOL. At least you finished the degree – very Taurus!) Also, of course, studying art was the right thing for you to do – you were doing what came naturally to you, and this also can explain why it reflects your south node.

    I know it's tempting to want to do “the right” thing all the time – and to be as practical as possible in your long-term goals/vision (Taurus in 9th house SN?, ha ha). But…as the old cliche goes, it's the journey that counts. Also, the South Node isn't bad – it shows you what comes easily to you. In other words you take the gifts of the south node to help you as you work towards the North Node. I went through the same thing you did – don't worry. It'll pass. 🙂 Go deeper. Scorpio is all about being resourceful (as is Taurus) – look for ways in which your art education served you, in ways that may not be immediately applicable in the most obvious practical ways.

    Does that make sense? Well, there you have it. Life is mysterious – I always believe that things work out for the best. It's when we try to control too much is when things go wrong, imho. : )

    I love your blog, and enjoy your writing. So thanks. 🙂

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