Pluto/IC Aspects

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“The Chainless Links” by Brooke Shaden

Unsafe home life. The destruction of normal family constructs. Power struggles at home. Power struggles with family members. Power struggles with mom or other maternal figures in your life. Destruction of roots. Transformation of the core self. Finding something deeper to base your life on than family ties. Breaking away from family conditioning.

Feeling trapped. Feeling captive. Feeling like you are being held hostage. Feelings of powerlessness. Held hostage by parental influence. Home-bound. Feeling trapped by family circumstances. Smothered. Stifled. Suffocated by family ties. Extremely complex feelings surrounding nurturing and being nurtured. Circumstances that make you feel dependent, or like a child. Extremely infantile behavior. Intense withdrawal from the outside world. Intense fears of the concept of “family” or “home-making.” Family life is dangerous, an entrapment and suffocating. The complete breakdown of normal family structures. A seething home life. Family members who are shrouded in mystery. Taboo family secrets. Your family is taboo. Your family brings up complex feelings about what it means to be in a family and what a “family” is.

Intense home life. Intense family connections. Life or death family struggles. The powerful influence of your roots, heritage and lineage over your life. Home is a pressure cooker. Feeling pressure from within. Feeling that you can’t escape the scrutiny of your family members, or other people that you let into your inner circle. Nightmarish family life. Destroying the family line. Experiencing a lot of death in your immediate family. Privately tormented. Plunging headlong into family drama.

Digging deep within to handle outside pressures. Transforming who you are deep inside. Learning to stand up for yourself. Finding an internal source of power. Tapping into inner wells of power to triumph over outside pressures. Getting to the bottom of things. Getting to the source of your problems. Psychotherapy focusing on family dynamics. Regressing to an infantile state. Interest in therapies like re-birthing. Regenerating yourself by digging through family history. Being reborn by investigating where you come from. Finding power through understanding your lineage and heritage. Excavating your deep-seated notions about who your family members are. Sifting through family secrets to understand yourself. Having the inner strength to handle difficult family situations. Finding your seat of power. The ability to build yourself back up after any type of breakdown. The ability to handle just about anything that life may throw at you.  The capacity to break through old, stagnant, destructive family patterns. Breaking through family habits and patterns handed down through generations. Interest in genealogy, archaeology and anthropology. Capacity for intense self-reflection. Finding buried treasure by going within.

Planets in aspect to the MC (Medium Coeli), or Midheaven, are also always in aspect to the IC (Imum Coeli). Posts are split up between MC and IC to show the different point of view that each of the angles brings to the natal chart. To learn about the flip-side of Pluto/IC, read Pluto/Midheaven Aspects.

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  • LB

    Michelle, these are all very good and also very *powerful* descriptions.:)  I relate to many (if not most) of them, but especially, “Finding an internal source of power.”  For me, that would be my spiritual faith.  I’ve learned my true source of power lies within and is not at all dependent upon my ability to control circumstances outside myself, although my attitude does sometimes have an effect.

    With Pluto in the 12th (and conjunct my Ascendant) square a Sagittarius IC (conjunct the Fixed Star, Antares), there have been plenty of times throughout my life when if I’d allowed myself to focus solely on all of the dangers, responsibilities and/or lack of freedom I had, my home and my life would’ve felt like a hellish prison.  Sometimes it has felt that way.

    I also don’t have any illusions about the word ‘family’ and what that means.  In both my immediate and extended families, that particular word gets thrown around quite a bit, without much follow-through.  It sounds good, but doesn’t guarantee much.  I’ve worked very hard to understand myself within the context of the family dynamics and early childhood environment that helped to shape me, and I no longer allow my previous roles to define me – they’re way too limiting.  Like you said, there’s treasure buried deep within and some of those gifts are unique to me.

    There are still a few family secrets I’d like to unravel.

    • Michelle

      Finding out who you are beyond family bonds is a big one with this position; family “expectations” seems to show up more with people who have Pluto in the 10th. My family didn’t put a lot of expectations upon me (Neptune opposing the MC) but I had to disentangle myself from family bonds to get surer footing. I’m not really addressing what you wrote, am I? 🙂

      • LB

        “I’m not really addressing what you wrote, am I?”

        Sure you are, Michelle.:)  I always feel like you’re interested and that your responses add something to the mix.  I learn from them.  I think I get what you’re trying to say – in my chart, Pluto is parallel my MC.  It’s even more complicated by the fact that the rulers of all of my angles (almost wrote angels – hahaha) are conjunct and in Scorpio.

        Neptune is conjunct the ruler of my IC, which in some ways, might be similar to your own  Neptune placement..  My family didn’t expect much from me either, especially since they never really *saw* me – I existed only as an extension of their own unmet/unrecognized needs and valued qualities (ever read “The Drama of the Gifted Child”?)  Anything else was disregarded or considered wrong/selfish.  Most of my family never really knew me.  My mom only knew me at the end when she’d finally lost her mind and all that was left was her heart.

        Yet when it came to being responsible, I was the one who took over (Saturn in the 4th). 

        One thing I didn’t mention that’s kind of interesting, is that my dad – who wasn’t at all religious and even seemed threatened by the idea of a power greater than himself – came from a long line of preachers!  I made the discovery after he’d passed and I started doing genealogy research.  I was shocked. 

        This past year, I dreamed about a Native American great grandmother on my mother’s side.  Her history is unclear and the mystery has been nagging at me.  It seems important.

        • Michelle

          Family history is so revealing. My grandmother’s cousin did research on our family, but I haven’t seen any of it except for one odd fact: I had a relative with the same last name as my boyfriend. It’s odd because I had never heard of his last name until I met him. 

          Good luck finding out more about your great grandmother.

    • billow

      “family secrets”  .  .  .  one big lie is behind the whole power structure.  Happened before I was born.   Everybody and their dog knew but me and a younger sibling.  About time it came out.   “Oh what a tangled web we weave.”

  • Robin Joy Dore

    I have a Singleton Pluto in Libra13° 8’50” in my 4th house Equal/Koch and my IC is in Virgo 11°21’11”  in my 4th house Equal/Koch and my IC is in Virgo 11°21’11” I can definitely say that there have been alot of upheavals and alot of drama in my home life since I was very young. My parents used to move frequently as well.

    • Michelle

      Is Uranus in aspect to your IC as well?

      • Robin Joy Dore

        No, my Uranus is in the 5th house in Scorpio 
        but my Moon in Virgo 9′ (rounded off) is
        conjunct my IC from my 3rd house.

        My mom’s Uranus retrograde 8’50 in Gemini
         is in her 3rd house and conjunct her IC in Gemini 18’59 degrees
         and her Mars in Gemini 14’13 in the 4th house is also conjunct her IC

        Is there something that I’m missing? 🙂

        • Michelle

          I was just wondering because you moved a lot. Uranus/IC seems to show instability, or moving. Your mom must be all over the place!

          • Robin Joy Dore

            ^_^ She definitely had a wanderlust and was definitely all over the place for years ….she took her family with her too, which is a good thing…but she has some physical health problems now and has settled down quite a bit, though she still travels sometimes.  Also, yes,she can be unstable a bit mentally and emotionally ….she can be quirky too. 🙂 I think that it helps that she has Moon in Cancer and Saturn in Gemini in her 4th house.

            I’m sorry for all the edits. I kept thinking of things to add.

  • Scythe404

    Experiencing your shadow as taller than you. 

    Pluto in Scorpio in the 4th, a few degrees from exact conjunction. 🙁 Not the happiest origin story…

    • Michelle

      I’ll have to think about that first sentence.  Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Scythe 404 🙂

      • billow

        The tall shadow (although somehow that word doesn’t quite do it for me) is just the tip of the iceberg?

        • Michelle

          I like the IC as the bottom of the IC…way, way underwater where you can’t see and have no way of knowing where it is.

          • billow

            I’m thinking I can call it.  Like say, this is as far as I’m going with this now.

            • Michelle

              Pluto/IC with the iceberg metaphor is kind of like, “How bad can it get?” and then it just keeps getting worse and worse – similar to, “Where does it end? Where’s the bottom?”

  • I don’t have this aspect but with transiting Pluto being within conjunction of my IC from the 3rd house and it’s journey of my 4th since late 1994, I damn sure feel like it’s in my natal chart! And it ain’t over yet! Whoever said “what does not kill you makes you stronger” must have had this aspect or Pluto on an angle somewhere.

    My mother-in-law just passed this weekend. She’s another in the cycle of death in my family and my husband’s family over this past 17 years. 

    You hit the nail square on the head with this one Michelle! I’m glad you “went off course” and wrote this one. It’s confirmation of what I’ve been feeling…for a while in hoping to somewhat understand what I’m supposed to learn from this transit.

    • Michelle

      I’m sorry to hear about your mother-in-law, MsFullroller. I can totally relate to the endless Pluto in the 4th transit. Pluto transited my IC in 1999, and it’s still in my 4th house. In one astrology book I read (can’t remember the author) she said that people who survive Pluto transited the 4th should at least get a t-shirt. 

      “Pluto transited my 4th house and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.” Ha!

      • Thanks Sis. Pluto is still in my 4th as well, busting through IC  in 1997. ’94 was the first reach out and touch one in the family even though it was still in the 3rd, 5-6 degrees from exact conjunction. It won’t be fully out til 2015.  Sooo…that means I’ve got some time to decide exactly how I want that t-shirt to look. Even though it’s a t-shirt, that Leo Moon says it’s got to look good! 😉

        • Michelle

          It does have to look good. No Hanes Beefy Ts.

        • LB

          Sorry about your mother-in-law, MsFullroller.  Hope you and your hubby are doing okay.

          I know what you and Michelle mean about Pluto transiting through the 4th.  It’s been in mine for many years now and is not done yet.  All I can say is that it’s a great transit for ‘house-cleaning’, both metaphorically and literally.  It’s forced me to deal with my stuff, the stuff I inherited as well as my own, and I’m no longer the same person I once was.  Or maybe, I’m *more* of who I was meant to be.

          • Thanks LB. We are doing fine.

            I totally agree with what you said. 

          • I got to thinking about this a bit more with all that has come up regarding “family” in these last 17 years. Pluto through the 4th or in the natal seems to be like an forced out of state move where you now must look at all the shizitt you’ve accumulated,  tucked waay back in the garage, in the attic, in the closets and in the basement, at Mom’s house etc. Cuz when the moving company comes to tell you how much it’s gonna cost to transport all that mess, you decide at the speed of lightening what to throw away. Taking only what you really need to your new home to begin again.

          • I got to thinking about this a bit more with all that has come up regarding “family” in these last 17 years. Pluto through the 4th or in the natal seems to be like an forced out of state move where you now must look at all the shizitt you’ve accumulated,  tucked waay back in the garage, in the attic, in the closets and in the basement, at Mom’s house etc. Cuz when the moving company comes to tell you how much it’s gonna cost to transport all that mess, you decide at the speed of lightening what to throw away. Taking only what you really need to your new home to begin again.

            • LB

              “Taking only what you really need to your new home to begin again.”

              Yes, exactly.  I would add that we also sometimes redefine exactly what ‘home’ means.  Since T. Pluto has been in my 4th, circumstances have necessitated that we move a total of three (actually, four) times.  That’s not even counting the numerous moves (and major ‘purges’) I’ve handled on behalf of my parents, including the emptying/cleaning/repairing of my childhood home in preparation for sale.  Maybe you’ve been through something similar and know how cathartic (but tough) that process can be.  Of course, part of my challenge had to do with Pluto joining my 4th house Saturn.

              Like you said, the hidden blessing with Pluto’s transit has been that it’s forced me to let go of anything not truly of value and to discover, then treasure, what’s most important to me.  With natal Pluto in the 12th, resistance is futile.

              Good luck with that T. Pluto semi-sextile, MsFullroller.  T. Pluto has been trine (now separating) my natal Pluto for a while now and I’m feeling the effects.

              I forget what house your natal Pluto is in – is it in the 2nd?  I only ask because as I understand it, Pluto transits also affect our natal placement of Pluto.  

              • I’m beginning to think resistance is futile no matter where Pluto is in your natal chart! Mine is in the 1st conjunct the ascendant.  I got awhile before I get the trine to my natal Uranus/Pluto conjunction, however sometime next year it’ll be trine my ascendant. T.Saturn is soon to be semi-sextile that conjunction.

                ” I would add that we also sometimes redefine exactly what ‘home’ means.”Oh yeah! My 4th is empty but I have moved twice,  moved my mother 3 times one time being after my father passed , moved within the place I used to work at once and moved the entire office once. Fortunately my parents sold the house prior to moving here. Move is a four letter word to me. lol

                • LB

                  Hahaha, four letter word is right.  Kind of amazing how similar our 4th house experiences have been.  Michelle is right – we do need a t-shirt! 🙂

                  Trine your ascendant sounds good!  I guess that means it’ll be trine mine soon enough.  Which is good, since at my age my ascendant needs all the help it can get.  BTW, is it my imagination or does the image beside my name look a little masculine? 

                  • It is amazing and I’m so glad that everyone has shared because there is very little out there on Pluto in or transiting the IC/4th house.

                    Nope not your imagination at all. It is a guy’s silhouette.

                  • Michelle

                    I don’t know what’s going on with the Mercurial image. For some reason the commenting system isn’t saving the image. You should see “retro” images soon.

                • Michelle

                  I don’t think Pluto is as much about moving as it is about total purging through moving. 

                  • I agree with you there. Most will not initiate purging unless some kind of move whether physical or a shift of perspective causes them to.  

              • Michelle

                I got an extra dose of what does “home” mean when I just had my Mars Return on the 17th (transiting Mars in Cancer also squared natal Pluto). I’ve been giving serious consideration to where I want to live and what kind of place will truly feel like home (not just the house but the area of the country as well).

              • Michelle

                I got an extra dose of what does “home” mean when I just had my Mars Return on the 17th (transiting Mars in Cancer also squared natal Pluto). I’ve been giving serious consideration to where I want to live and what kind of place will truly feel like home (not just the house but the area of the country as well).

            • Michelle

              I like your analogy of cleaning out the house. I still have dreams about neighborhood demolition, new additions to houses, rooms changing, and finding hidden doors, rooms and staircases – especially in the houses I grew up in.

            • Michelle

              I like your analogy of cleaning out the house. I still have dreams about neighborhood demolition, new additions to houses, rooms changing, and finding hidden doors, rooms and staircases – especially in the houses I grew up in.

          • Michelle

            It’s good to get through all that family stuff; it won’t follow you your whole life.

      • billow

        What house rules in laws?

        • The 9th house rules in-laws. #astrology

    • Anonymous

      Very sorry about your family’s loss, MsFullroller.

    • As I added to my Uranus/IC reply it turns out I have this aspect as a bi-novile. Pluto is 3 seconds in front of Uranus. So transiting Pluto is/has been setting off this aspect and the natal Pluto/Uranus conjunction to my ascendant in the 1st.

      OMG, finally after all these years I know that I was not imagining the power struggles going on in my household as a kid! Thank you Michelle!!! 🙂

  • David5379

    wow im surprised you did this, i have the conjunction and its really tight, and ive been thinking about it lately ha

    • Michelle

      My Pluto/IC line runs down the entire West coast. I’ve been thinking about Pluto/IC continuously over the past 3 weeks based on the experiences I had traveling on the road trip. I wanted to get it all down while it was fresh, even though it’s a little off course from what I ‘should’ be writing about. 

      What have your experiences been?

      • David5379

        well, im not arguing ha, well my pluto IC problems are pretty personal, i dont like talking about them, essentially 2 years ago i faced true evil, what was once considered the most perfect and pure thing i knew turned out to be rotten and filled with lies, it didnt just go from perfect to not that great or even from perfect to flawed, it seemed to descend to the most horrible and evil quality something can consist of,  there was definatly that whole pluto mercurey thing i have going on, and i was like a double agent spy forced to be an intermediary between the side that wholly hated and wanted to anhiliate the other side, and that other side that just wanted to get it over with and was not really keen on a fight. The most important thing was i realized how powerful i was, and when faced with my deepest darkest self found i was not evil, i have no guilt in the fact i had to lie continuously or do some things that can be considered immoral even, but i had both parents in mind and was willing to do whatever, and i singlehandedly got us through it
        i do not mean that lightly at all, if left to there own devices, if i just didnt do anything or sided with one over the other everything would have fallen apart, im not just saying that, if i didnt step in someone might have gone to jail or even been left destitute or mentally broken, in all seriousness i kept our family intact all  by myself, with no help, everyone else just added there problems onto me, but i did it, by myself, and with no serious hang ups moving forward, and no one at school could even tell something was up, i still got the same grades and had the same laughs 

        i am not a boastful person, i hate bragging and attention(im virgo rising damnit!) , but in all seriousness and with out a degree of exaggeration i saved our family, and i am in fact a powerful person, I can survive anything, maybe no one can really tell, but its true, the floor opened up bellow me and i faced the very depths of hell, i made it back just fine

        • Michelle

          Awesome description, David5379. Something I forgot to add to this description is the need for privacy. 

          I’m a naturally private person ( 3 planets, Chiron and BML in the 8th house) but during this trip I felt an unrelenting need to be by myself. I felt like I couldn’t get enough privacy.

          • David5379

            ha thats funny you say that, whenever im home most of the time i want to be by myself, and whenever someone just barges into my room there like “why is your room so dark? turn on some lights”, and then that weird moment you feel like youv been caught doing something wrong or have been caught in the act even when your not doing anything at all, ugh i hate that, i have nothing to hide EVER but it feels so horrible being interrupted

            • David5379

              and capacity for intense self reflection was a very good one in particular, by the by

              • Michelle

                Thanks 🙂

              • Michelle

                Thanks 🙂

          • billow

            David is like a super hero like batman or someone like that.  They always work under a mask. 

            • Batman … nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh, nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh … BATMAN!!!

              I think Batman had a 12th house Aquarius Sun.