Chiron/Uranus Aspects

chiron-uranus-aspectsSolving the collective rejection of society’s fringe elements. Waking up to the wounding of groups of people who have been marginalized and outcast. The pain of ostracized groups of people begins to be healed. We begin to let in the pain of outcast members of society. Healing generational wounds through unconventional methods. Healing through getting in touch with your inner weirdo or freak. Feeling healed by surrounding yourself with outcasts and people on the fringe. Revival of ‘bizarre’ tribal customs – tattooing, piercing, scarring, body modification, etc… Feeling like you fit in better when you don’t fit in.

Seeking to more fully integrate unusual behaviors and strange desires into mainstream society. Making room for fringe elements in mainstream society. Making room for astrology in mainstream society. Making room for far-out theories and ideas in mainstream society. Sudden insight into deeper elements of science and technology. Bridging gaps in the way we think about science and technology. Whether through rebellion, riot or revolt, conservative mindsets can’t prevent edgier elements from cutting through.

Behaviors once considered deviant begin to demand integration and acceptance. The desire to individuate becomes a source of healing but also a source of alienation. Being an individual brings the pain of alienation from the group. Detachment and cool uncaring attitudes need to be healed. Hipsters. “I’m so cool, it hurts.” Inability to let empathy flow. Detrimental, almost robotic, detachment. Coolness, progressive attitudes, and needing to be at the leading edge, can be almost like a prison. Deep fears of being seen as old, stuffy, conservative, or out of the loop. Preferring to show no emotional attachment at all rather than make a fool of yourself; or, taking your attachments to such an extreme that you become almost beyond reproach. Tragically hip.

The fear of not being different. The fear of being incredibly bland and having nothing unique or brilliant to offer the world. The pain of feeling like one of the faceless masses. The fear of being generic. Going to extremes to prove that you are unique. Gaining attention by purposely embracing a shocking path in life. Becoming a mentor and healer by awakening to what is unique within you.  Becoming a guide to outcasts. Healing fragmented aspects of yourself by embracing shocking or progressive viewpoints. Sudden leaps in recognition bring healing. Sudden insight into collective patterns of pain and wounding.

Becoming whole by accepting the aspects of our personalities that we have rejected. Plugged into the healing power of group experiences. Forming your own group, tribe, collective or organization to address the issues that concern you – no matter how far out of the mainstream. Pain comes through disassociating aspects of your personality that don’t conform to parental, societal or other conventional expectations. Pain comes through the continued splintering off of marginalized segments of society. Celebrating differences helps heal pain and wounding. Celebrating progress, freedom and detachment from the status quo helps heal pain. There’s a group for everything. There’s an app for everything. Technology at the expense of humanity becomes an issue. Healing with electricity or electrical currents. Acupuncture goes mainstream.

Dennis Avner, the Cat Man

Dennis Avner, aka "Catman" or "Stalking Cat." World record holder for the most body modifications: Moon conjunct Chiron in Aquarius, both opposing Uranus conjunct Venus in Leo

The key to healing is to integrate the parts of your personality that may conflict with society’s sense of ‘normal’. The key to healing is to embrace technology without losing your humanity. The key to healing is to make room for the unconventional in your life. Wholeness comes through accepting your banal traits as well as your unique traits. Wholeness comes through recognizing how the outcasts of the world mirror your own inner state of alienation and rejection. Wholeness comes through bringing forward more of your repressed personality traits and quirks. Healing comes through breaking the mold of who you think you’re supposed to be and what you think you’re supposed to do. Wholeness comes through embracing far-out, fringe and bizarre theories and ideas. You could become a mentor on some strange, derided or ‘crazy’ idea.

Generally, aspects between Chiron and Uranus tend to increase the influence of Uranus — Barbara Hand Clow, Chiron: Rainbow Bridge Between the Inner & Outer Planets

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Original Chiron glyph. Click to read more.

Chiron is both a minor planet and a comet. It is located between Saturn and Uranus. Chiron takes about 50 years to make one complete cycle through all the signs of the zodiac. Chiron is in Libra for the shortest amount of time – 1.5 years; and in Aries the longest – about 8 years. Chiron’s symbol resembles a key. Chiron was in exact opposition to Uranus forty-one times between 1952 and 1989, and in orb of opposition for most people born during those years.

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  • Nice Post ….Actually very interesting topic Astrology…
    I m trying to read something new which i read here….

  • LB

    “Wholeness comes through recognizing how the outcasts of the world mirror your own inner state of alienation and rejection.  Wholeness comes through bringing forward more of your repressed personality traits and quirks.  Healing comes through breaking the mold of who you think you’re supposed to be and what you think you’re supposed to do.”

    I love this post, Michelle and as always, related to your descriptions.  My 6th house Aquarius Chiron is opposite my 12th house Uranus in Leo – rulers of the two (Uranus and the Sun) form a quintile, along with several other aspects.  Chiron and Uranus are also loosely conjunct my Vertex/Anti-Vertex axis.

    For me,  healing has come through reaching out to others in compassionate ways to help facilitate their healing – finally learning to  accept and embrace my own vulnerabilities has been part of the Chirotic process.   Likewise, healing has come through giving a voice to repressed insights and observations about the way the world works and then trying to make a difference through practical efforts, no matter how small or insignificant they might seem. 

    Aquarius is normally at odds with the details, but placed in the 6th, my awareness of how little things matter is pronounced and doesn’t preclude my becoming involved with larger social issues.  I’d love to see a world where we stop dehumanizing, marginalizing, and scapegoating others through rationalization and carelessness.  My Chiron/Uranus opposition is being set off by the current Pluto/Uranus square, seeing as how it’s at the midpoint.  Learning to accept imperfection without losing faith is one of the major challenges with this placement.

    Good one, Michelle!  Thanks. 🙂

    • Did you ever have any issues with being almost ‘robotic’ in work situations? Feeling like you reached a place where the work you were doing could be replaced by a machine? Just curious 🙂

      • LB

        I think I understand your question, but *no*, not in the way you’re asking.  I always knew I did a good job, whether or not the people around me noticed or not – and often they did.  But there were always those few in my various work/service environments who tried to dehumanize me and devalue the work I did in other ways, which is often when I’d quit. 

        On most of my jobs, my previous employers tried to convince me to come back to work for them after realizing things weren’t quite the same without me and that I wasn’t so easily replaced. 🙂

        The other funny thing about your question is that I miss the good old days when I could earn extra money stuffing envelopes, running 10-key adding machine tapes (hahaha), or doing some other *robotic* job.  I’m very fast and used to find those types of odd jobs a relaxing change from my regular day job.  In a strange way, they were often far less dehumanizing.
         

        • LB

          Adding –  when I give Reiki (my new career path), I’m only acting as the channel for the energy or guidance that (hopefully) flows through me.  Since it doesn’t originate with me, I guess there might be a slightly robotic quality to what I’m doing, in that I’m plugged in to a higher source and can’t take any of the credit for being the source itself.  Sometimes the “stuff” that comes out of me amazes even me – I can hardly believe it myself!   Hope that makes sense.

        • The second paragraph is more of what I was referring to – mechanical, automated, non-thinking positions. I’ve had a few jobs where I knew what I was supposed to do so well, that I almost felt like a computer running the same program day after day after day.

          • LB

            Your reference to “non-thinking positions” reminded me of how my 6th house Chiron Aquarius (the pain associated with group-think) opposite 12th house Uranus in Leo (individual uniqueness and self-expression and how it relates to our Divine interconnectedness) often takes issue with the way society rewards us for *not* thinking and acting autonomously/mindfully, even when we think we are – there’s lots going on in the world right now where I can see this happening, although many of us would like to believe the opposite is true. 

            Then day before yesterday, I watched an interview with the two authors (Bazerman and Tenbrunsel) of a book entitled “Blind Spots: Why We Fail to Do What’s Right and What to Do About It”, which was very reassuring (and hopeful) since the book apparently addresses many of the issues I always talk about.   We humans like to think we’re doing the right thing, when in reality we often allow ourselves to become blinded/deluded by self-interest, group-think and/or the organizational mindset.  Or as one of the authors put it,  . . . we can easily become “motivated not to notice.” 

            I only mention it because it fits in so perfectly with my own observations related to my astrological placement.  I wish I knew when the authors were born!

            • ‘…We humans like to think we’re doing the right thing, when in reality we
              often allow ourselves to become blinded/deluded by self-interest,
              group-think and/or the organizational mindset.  Or as one of the authors
              put it,  . . . we can easily become “motivated not to notice.”.. ”

              This is why I feel we as a human race are in the position we find ourselves in at this point in time. People erroneously thought that because whatever was happening was not directly affecting them, “it’s happening to those people so who cares”.  It’s now come back to bite us all who are alive in the behind.

              • LB

                “it’s happening to those people so who cares”.

                Isn’t that sad but true?  And you’re right, ultimately we do all pay a price because inevitably, all of us end up being affected – if not in this life (or generation), then in the next.:)    That’s a good example of the *conscious* decisions we humans are capable of making; unfortunately we can’t force other human beings to care – some people genuinely embrace concepts such as “survival of the fittest” or “us against them”.

                What troubles me more is how we’re often motivated at such deeply unconscious and unaware levels, we can delude ourselves into believing we’re acting (or failing to act) out of integrity . . . even when we’re not.  It all has to do with mindfulness. 

                Okay, that’s enough of my Sunday sermon!  Speaking of mindless, I’m off to *kinda* watch football. 🙂

  • Bob

    Quite interesting, Michelle. I’ve only recently begun to look at Chiron, first through synastry, and more recently as a result of a progressed chart reading someone gave me. It’s been attention-getting in a pretty heavy way. Now, this morning, I get “Chiron/Uranus” in my email and decide to check my chart; whaddaya know, a near exact opposition, with Chiron at 1 Pisces and Uranus at 0 Virgo.
     
    And everything (aside from the body modification, although that’s odd, too, in that I’ve recently begun to sketch some ideas for a potential, maybe someday tattoo) you say connects to a very particular truth. As a matter of fact, I woke this morning thinkng about my role in two different long conversations last night, at a sports bar, with two “fringe” characters, both of whom gave me hugs at the end of the night. I was acutely aware of healing going on in the exchanges, that had mainly to do with living with deep wounds. I  realized I’ve always more or less been attached somehow to people who are on the fringe in one way or another, and I know that I am “out there” though it isn’t so externally obvious.
     
    Much to consider here. Thank you as always, and again, right on time, almost like cued up. I note in your list of people with aspects, the high percentage of oppositions. Also, fwiw, I’m in the midst of my Chiron return, pointed out to me by the person who did my progressed interpretation, which is what got me recently looking into this fringe character, Chiron. It’s been thick stuff. And it all fits quite tightly. ‘Tis the season, it seems.  
     
    Thanks, Michelle.

    • Anonymous

      I have lots of oppositions too

      • What do you mean?

      • Why did you choose that hexagram as your avatar?

        • Anonymous

          Because in Numerology i am personality number 7 which is equal in some way to the i-ching “mountain” hexagram

          • Anonymous

            the meaning of “being still” the “dissolving of the ego” fits me. this is i-Ching #52

    • That’s fascinating how Chiron has been vying for your attention lately – there must be something he’s trying to tell you (though you seem to be on to him!)

      • billow

        “on
        to him” . . . the really coolest thing about The Yod Book by Hamaker
        Zondag is in the conclusion, like the very end of the book, (yes, once again
        I’ve been lazy and selective in my reading). It seems to be about the issue of
        immortality. It’s bigger than us. And it seems to me that it is really of the
        utmost importance especially for the uranus chiron challenge. “We are all
        part of a larger whole. . . We are part of a future, regardless of whether we
        have or will have children, because we are the retort in which the future is
        taking shape. . . . are in the deepest sense pioneers of the future . . . in their
        inner fight lies the seed of the new ethic and norms of the future.”.  What we are doing affects the future in small
        or large ways.  We can’t but help it.

        And maybe
        tis true, that with leo uranus, as in my set up, lies the sense of humor that
        says hey, life doesn’t have to be  so
        serious.  Heck, when I leave the planet,
        I wanna be able to say, it was a good ride, thanks for the laughs. And of
        course, I will have affected the course of events, because I was here.  And therein lies my immortality.  It makes the quest to do it better all the
        more worthwhile.

  • Anonymous

    This is soooooooo me. When I was in high school, i gravitated toward to outcasts of the school but even they would look at me like i did not belong there. I am a very quiet person and sometimes people maybe people think im cold but i have no problem with that. im actually caring humanitarian, voluntarist, i worked in hospitals and rehabs. 
    People think im really mean, yet i never did anything or said anything to them. I just go about my day. I feel think i have a very masculine flair for a female and i do not want to conform to social stereotypes of being feminine. I have Natal:

    CHIRON- CANCER 10TH HOUSE

    URANUS-CAPRICORN 4TH HOUSE

    • I’m curious about why you feel you have a masculine flair. Which signs are your Venus and Mars in?

      • billow

        And I’m curious where the saturn is.

        • Yep, me too! I was getting there, lol.

      • Anonymous

        VENUS- CANCER 10TH HOUSE
        MARS- LEO 10TH OUSE
        SATURN- AQUARIUS 5TH HOUSE

        Im curious too

        • Okay, more questions…

          Are Venus and Mars conjunct? Does Mars make an aspect to your Moon or Sun?

          • Anonymous

            NATAL

            Mars LEO 10TH HOUSE- SEXTILE – MY SUN GEMINI 8TH HOUSE

            My Moon is Sagittarius 3th house

            • Well, Sun/Mars would give your Sun some Aries-like qualities, which could contribute to your masculine flair.

              • billow

                Fire and air are masculine.  Earth and water are feminine.  But I find the perceptions of masculine and feminine are not always the same.

                • What do you mean – that people don’t agree on the definitions of masculine and feminine?

                  • billow

                    When I read writings that reference masculine and feminine, I don’t always get the same thing.  Sometimes it relates to traditional male/female roles.  Sometimes it’s a principal like feminine based societies are better, because they have different value systems supposedly.  And then there is the psychogically based feminine and masculine that we all have and are supposed to be balanced.  The main difficulty I have is the gender confusion in the mix, like feminine = woman.  Masculine = man.  Therefore women are good, men are bad. 

                    At present, I am at the feminine is my wild unchained nature.  And masculine is my reasoned use of that power, in a civilized way.  The nastiness and abuse by people is the respressed feminine coming out.  And sure I’d like to being running around wild and free to do what I please when I please but I’m not the only one.  Somewhere along the line homo sapien became human and developed consciousness that involves consideration of others.

                    Crowding and systemization makes it harder and harder for us to connect with the natural world where we can stay in touch with our wild in a healthy way.  It’s back to the primal scream which I think we have discussed before.  It’s a good thing when it’s gotta blow and if it doesn’t hurt anyone else. 

                    Merc is Rx, so if I’m being cryptic, I apologize.  

                    • LB

                      “And sure I’d like to be running around wild and free to do what I please when I please but I’m not the only one.  Somewhere along the line homo sapien became human and developed consciousness that involves consideration of others.”

                      Well said, billow. 🙂  Sometimes there does seem to be an underlying suggestion that women are good, men bad – not that Michelle does this, but I pick up on it too sometimes and it makes it difficult to understand the parameters within discussions.  I suspect it was borne out of an awareness that women weren’t/aren’t being taken seriously, as if historically our contributions were of less value.  We humans love to formulate things  into good/bad categories, believing  if one thing is bad, then the other must be all good and vice versa.  Most of us buy into this overly simplistic way of thinking without ever realizing what we’re doing. 

                      I think both the feminine and masculine sides of our nature are capable of extremes of behavior, positive and negative.  Which also means that neither gender is inherently superior nor more evolved than the other.  In a similar vein, I believe there’s value in both right brain and left brain thinking – we must have been given two sides for a reason.

                      I see my masculine side as being more reasoned, naturally assertive and proactive, whereas my feminine side is more intuitive, nurturing and sometimes reactive, albeit with good reason.  But maybe that’s only because I’ve been conditioned to see it this way – don’t know.  It makes me wonder.  This whole topic ties in with my Chiron/Uranus opposition, as well as my BM Lilith/Sun opposition.

                    • billow

                      Intuition would be feminine water.   And fit the description of receptive and passive because it doesn’t go anywhere in itself.  There is a choice about what it is, and how to use it.

                      The “reactive” you mention is not passive so would that fall into our masculine side?

                      Perhaps merc rx is a good time for garble. 

                    • LB

                      “The ‘reactive’ you mention is not passive so would fall into our masculine side?”

                      Maybe so, billow.  With BM Lilith in Aries (8th), I may be confusing the two.  I do see my BM Lilith as representing that instinctive “wild”  energy you mentioned, which can sometimes be reactive.   I guess part of the frustration in defining my own “reactive” qualities, it is that the energy feels *gender* neutral.  I assigned it to the “feminine” category based on the astrology.  It’s the place in my psyche where there’s one ultimate truth, and in reaching for that truth, I rebel against anything that feels false or limiting based on strictly defined roles and categories . . . of any kind.  It does feel more “intuitive”, so maybe it is feminine.  Words – can’t live with ’em, can’t live without ’em!

                      And yet, I don’t know if this energy works the same way in the charts of men; based on my limited experience, it doesn’t seem to.  But again, I don’t know.  Maybe it only manifests differently because most men in our society are conditioned differently.  So here we go again.

                      Mercury went retrograde right on my 4th house Saturn/Asteroid Spirit/Part of Spirit.  I guess now is as good a time as any to reexamine all of this, hoping to make sense of it when Mercury turns direct.  The Eclipse set off a bunch of stuff too.  Rambling, rambling. :O

                    • billow

                      Ramblin ramblin is right.  I sure do get that when it comes to talkin theory lately. From the fem/mas principle of receptive/active, I could say this:  my feminine is incoming energy and masculine is outgoing energy. 

                      But the word feminine still grounds me in the wild which could be equated to femine earth. maybe. 

                      One thing for sure the feminine/masculine principal is about the feminine/masculine in all of us and does not define gender and or traditional male/female roles.

                    • Incoming energy and outgoing energy – a nice way to put it.

                    • I don’t like the insinuations that feminine-based societies are ‘better’ either (women=good/men=bad). I’m finishing reading Mysteries of the Dark Moon by Demetra George and that’s the underlying message.

                    • I don’t like it either. I’m also beginning to wonder about the terms “masculine” and “feminine” as well because I hate the insinuations of things like reasoning, bravery and common sense are deemed as “masculine” whereas nurturing, reactive and intuitiveness as “feminine”.  Probably can be chalked up to conditioning and hopefully this Age of Aquarius will kick that mess right out.

                    • LB

                      You know MsFullroller, with Mercury retrograde I hope my comment didn’t come across the wrong way.  When I used the word masculine, I didn’t mean male, just as I didn’t mean female when I used the word feminine (something I think billow alluded to).  Anyway, there are different kinds of smart and different ways to protect/nurture – we could all do with some of each.

                      As I thought more about it, I realized that although I don’t like the idea of either masculine or feminine energy being considered superior to the other, I actually *do* like the idea that we all have both masculine and feminine traits.  When the best of these energies combine, they hold the potential to create someone balanced and *whole*.  And when I say balanced, I don’t mean equal – I mean harmonious.

                      The biggest problem with conditioning is when we’re taught to favor one side of our nature (based on traditional male/female roles) and completely neglect, ignore or repress the other – assuming we’re talking about the best qualities of each.  That’s when we start to negate those “other” qualities as being undesirable.  There’s strength in both – they complement one another.

                      With so much air in my chart, I have a lot of masculine energy, which I (usually) like.  But I also place a high value my feminine qualities.  I like (and need) both.

                    • With a natal Mercury retro in Pisces, I got what you were saying in the previous comment and here, agree, how you meant it with the hope that what I said was not taken the wrong way. 😉

                      What I’m getting at is, I don’t see the need to label character/personality traits as masculine/feminine and as you’ve said, none are superior as all are needed for the whole of humanity and the planet. Patriarchy nor Matriarchy is not any better than the other because they both are imbalanced and are both sides of the same coin.

                      Element wise I’m more water with 3 major planets with my Sun, Moon and female asteroids in the water houses. My Sun/Moon/Mars, Venus and Jupiter are in “masculine” signs thus outwardly reflecting that energy. I totally agree with what you said, I need both.

                    • LB

                      I agree, MsFullroller.  Maybe someday we’ll get to the point where the words we use to describe certain qualities don’t feel like labels that define and limit us.  But first we have to get to a place where the positive aspects of the qualities themselves don’t take on negative connotations based on stereotypes.  I hope that makes sense.

                    • billow

                      No “need to label character/traits as masculine/feminine”  . . .  who’da thunk we’d ever see this day.  : D

                    • 6 out of my 10 planets have a masculine polarity. #astrology

                    • billow

                      Does that mean they are feminine planets in masculine signs?  Or masculine planets in feminine signs?  Can you explain about the polarity?

                    • Interesting question, billow. In this reply I’m only referring to the standard masculine/feminine orientation of the signs. 

                    • billow

                      For more confusion, and word mincing .  .  .  some signs are fertile and some are infertile.  That must come from agricultural societies?  Please feel free to ignore.   I just don’t know that all this matters.

                    • I wonder about that too. Leo is supposed to be one of the most infertile signs, yet it corresponds to August – usually not a fallow time of the year (in the Northern Hemisphere anyway). I forget where these correspondences originate from.

                    • This is why I don’t get how Leo is associated with children.

                    • I’m going to have to go look it up again.

                    • billow

                      I’m not saying this is what it is, but Leo rules the fifth and I understand that house to be related to creativity.  And children are something we create.  And children ideally are free and creative by nature.  Also when I think Leo, at its best, I think heart.

                      Sometimes July and August is really hot and my garden is screaming water water I need water.???  The sun can seem very hot and really dry the earth. 

                    • Good theory. Even with a Leo Moon, I’m not that interested in having kids. I like them, but I’d rather put creative energy into projects.

                    • LB

                      To add to tower of words.  Aquarius Moon in 5th = LOVE kids, but none of my own.

                    • OK, I get it. The Sun (Leo) is one central (heart) part to life. Water (Moon) is another. 🙂

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                      billow (unregistered) wrote, in response to MsFullroller:
                      I’m not saying this is what it is, but Leo rules the fifth and I understand that house to be related to creativity.  And children are something we create.  And children ideally are free and creative by nature.  Also when I think Leo, at its best, I think heart.
                      Sometimes July and August is really hot and my garden is screaming water water I need water.???  The sun can seem very hot and really dry the earth. Link to comment

                    • billow

                      From Astrological Gardening by Louise Riotte  (gardening with moon cycles)   …  “Leo rules a curtailing function in the cycle of a plant’s growth that is most necessary.  Under Cancer, we find great productiveness, with replication of leaf after leaf.  But for the plant to blossom and set fruit this process cannot continue.  As the time for the flower to appear arrives, the leaves become smaller and compacted together on the stalk.  They eventually end in a whorl consisting of atrophied leaves called sepals, which forms a green base around the nascent flower.  It is the function of Leo in the plant’s life to bring this about.

                      Because this process slows growth, we can easily understand why Leo is considered to be the most barren sign for planting.  A test of seedlings transplanted while the moon was in Leo had zero survival rate while those transplanted under Cancer were successful.”

                    • Wow, now this makes so much sense! Leo is the flower (most flower shapes resemble the sun and it’s rays) birthing the seed. The seed is the child (creation) of a new plant. Plants slow down the growing process when temps are high so seeds won’t germinate (birth into a new plant). I’m gonna have to check that book out.

                    • billow

                      It might have to do with sun too, but she focusses on planting with moon cycles.  She does mention, though, that the waning moon in leo in august is an awesome time to get rid of weeds once and for all.

                    • Cool.

                    • billow

                      Oh yes, so very cool.  I’m basking.  Time to step up that saturn.  I’m driiiiiiiiifting!

                    • billow

                      Oh so you mean split houses in the system you are using?   In that case, natally I have polarity in all houses but the 11th in the house system I’m using.  And polarity only by a hair in the 4th and 10th.  Those astrologers that list feminine and masculine, they never really apply it in their contined writing as far as I’ve noticed, so I have no clue if it means anything to their work or not.

                    • I think we’re using the word “polarity” in different ways – or maybe I’m using the wrong word to describe what I mean … hm … need to double check myself …

                    • billow

                      If I remember correctly , ransiting merc rx is dancing with your neptune?  And isn’t it great that we are running out room so that this ridiculous thing I started will become extinct?

                    • Transiting Mercury and the north node have been all over my Neptune (14 Sag). In my natal chart Neptune is the focus of a Thor’s Hammer configuration (Mercury conjunct Chiron both square Saturn with all 3 sesquiquadrate Neptune). Also, right now I have transiting Saturn square natal Saturn and transiting Saturn opposite Mercury/Chiron: I’m having total writer’s block. The good thing is that it will pass 🙂

                    • billow

                      I never heard thor’s hammer before.  Sounds complex. 

                      You might have something there with that saturn square saturn block.  Right now transiting saturn is sextiling natal saturn and natal pluto and conjuncting natal neptune.  Everything is flowing pretty darn good.  But now that I am aware of this,  as I enjoy the unreal ease, I have to be careful not to get sloppy because like you say this too will pass.  And I sure don’t want to set myself up in any way now, that will collapse in on me when this time of ease shifts into rockier shores.  Knowing that this will pass, makes it all the sweeter and more precious.

                    • These skinny replies crack me up!

    • “…i have a very masculine flair for a female and i do not want to conform to social stereotypes of being feminine..”

      I totally get what you are saying! 

      • Anyone with Aries planets can relate to that statement 🙂

        • Thanks for confirming that ‘cuz for many years especially when I was little I knew I was different from other girls.

  • tatiana.larina

    First! How Uranian of me 🙂

    I am half a year older than Charlize Theron, a few years younger than Jennifer Garner and Kristen Wiig.  My Chiron-Uranus opposition is very loose (8 degrees orb) and for that reason I may not have employed it much.  However, now transiting Chiron forms a trine with my natal Uranus in the 7th and it encouraged me to think about what society and culture requires of me as a woman in terms of relationships vs. what I myself really want.  Food for thought.

    • Do Uranus or Chiron also make an aspect to Venus or Mars?

      • tatiana.larina

        My natal Chiron in Aries in the 1st is in a very exact sextile to my Mars in Aquarius in the 11th.

    • My natal Uranus/Pluto is in the 1st house conjunct my Ascendant, Saturn/Mercury/Chiron/True Lilith is in the 7th so what you’ve said here rings so true to me. Though it’s been almost a life long recognition…maybe that’s due to being an 8th house Aries Sun/Mars and my Venus is in Aquarius. I’m accepting that since I’ve always been somewhat outside the box, I might as well step all the way out.