Chiron/Pluto Aspects

The compulsion to explore something sinister within. Mistrusting deep instincts. Out of touch with innate inner knowing. Healing comes from learning how to trust your deep instincts. You have a blind spot for the darkness within you and within others. You don’t recognize the shadow within you. You are slow to recognize the shadow in others. Gullibility. Profoundly disturbing lessons needed to get in touch your instincts. Learning who to trust. Learning who not to trust. Stockholm Syndrome. Learning what it means to get your hands dirty. Learning the complexity of “right” and “wrong.” Deep suffering through broken trust. Healing comes from learning how to trust again. You trust the wrong people. Bitterness through being hurt by the ones you trust the most. Healing comes from transforming the bitterness.

Bitter feelings and excruciating experiences brought on by envy, greed, sex, and jealousy. Diving headlong into situations that make you seethe with poisonous thoughts and emotions. Becoming obsessed with the very emotions that destroy you. Toxic healing experiences. Homeopathy. Using what causes the sickness to heal the sickness. Learning how to become less of a slave to your compulsions. By healing your compulsions, you help others heal theirs. By diving into your complexes, you show others how to dive into theirs. Trouble understanding power dynamics. Feeling either all-powerful or totally powerless. Letting unworthy people exert power over you. Being coerced into situations and relationships by forces seemingly beyond your control. Under the influence of a master manipulator. Becoming a master manipulator. Having keen insight into what motivates people. Understanding the underlying motivations of human behavior. Knowing how to use your understanding of motivation to help others. Using your understanding of motivation to manipulate others.

Compulsion to purge yourself of everything that torments you. Living a superficial life. Experiencing extreme anxiety about anything that isn’t bright, shiny, sunny, and out in the open. Alternatively, an inability to let go of the very things that keep you imprisoned in unproductive cycles of addiction and grief. People who know how to deal with unrelenting pressure. People who do not know what to do with themselves when they’re not under pressure. Self-punishers. The urge to purge agonizing experiences – sometimes by throwing yourself right into the thick of them. Exorcising your demons. Horror film fanatics. Viewing horror films or reading horror novels is a cathartic experience. Halloween is your favorite holiday. Letting go of a need for extreme emotions to feel alive and vital. Healing something intense and destructive within you. Paralyzed by powerful emotions, longings, and compulsions. “The Bad Seed.” The fear of discovering what your deepest desires really are. A fear of completely accepting all aspects of who you are.

Healing relationships with the dead. Coming to terms with how death affects your life. Coming to terms with your own inevitable death. Facing the fear of dying. Helping others cope with death and dying. Helping others cope with grieving. Grief counselors. Trauma counselors. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The key to healing is embracing your “dark passenger.” Healing comes through exploring a murky path. Feeling compelled to help others along their journey of uncovering the shadow self. The key to wholeness is resolving generations of karma. The key to healing is breaking generational patterns of behavior. You become a mentor by addressing your addictions. You become a teacher by confronting your compulsions. You become a guide when you are no longer a slave to your desires. You create a bridge between the lower and higher selves by embracing the best and worst of who you are.

When I let up from the weed, and the drinking too, I cried every day. And I liked that. I like crying. And now I not only wanna cry and show my crying to other people, I wanna just split myself down the middle and open my guts and just throw everything out! ~ Woody Harrelson, Chiron opposite Pluto

original chiron glyph

Original Chiron glyph. Click to read more.

Chiron is both a minor planet and a comet. It is located between Saturn and Uranus. Chiron takes about 50 years to make one complete cycle through all the signs of the zodiac. Chiron is in Libra for the shortest amount of time – 1.5 years; and in Aries the longest – about 8 years. Chiron’s symbol resembles a key.

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  • VenusMizu24

    Never payed too much attention to this aspect in my chart…actually, I never noticed it :O I have a Chiron-Pluto square and I do have trouble with my dark side.  I don’t try to refuse it, but I’m struggling with how to go too deep without becoming self-destructive.  I could relate to so much in this post; gave me some new ways to look at it.  Thanks for writing it. 

    Oh, and hi! Long-time lurker here, first-time commentator 🙂

    • Thank you for commenting, VenusMIzu24 🙂 It’s funny how we can overlook certain aspects in our charts.

  • David5379

    maybe a sensitivity to life and death matters/crisis? I remember reading this aspect had to do with people who just suddenly save someones life or their own by jumping into action even though they should not have known what was about to happen would happen, like a spider sense. Maybe also since pluto is invisible, it means an invisible wound, although to be fair 12th house chiron already means invisible wound on some level so maybe I am attributing that for the wrong reason. I have always thought that chiron and pluto were strangely complementary, they both have to do with surrendering on some level, with the dark side of a certain issue, and also both have to do with healing even if different kinds, even if they are both nasty, there is something agreeable between the two of them, like their goals are not conflicting, just always thought that was interesting 

    • There is a connection to death, though it seems like some people are less “sensitive” to it than compelled to walk hand in hand with it. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross is well-known for her work in near-death experience:

      • David5379

        thats pretty interesting, and a bit scary too, I dont think I would want a near-death experience, I would rather have a hallucinogenic trip once and be done with it as far as crazy experiences, I wonder if near death experiences wont be the same once neptune and pluto no longer sextile, maybe death will no longer have that mystical connection to something out there, unless it has historical precedence, almost dying will probably always have a sort of meaningful lesson quality to it, I just wonder if people will still have visions

        • Interesting idea … I think people will always be fascinated with death and strive to find a deeper meaning it. The mystical part though … I wonder. Have you seen the movie, Hereafter

          I wish there were more movies dealing with this topic.

          • LB

            LOVE that movie!  Just watching it was healing for me.  I saw it right when I was debating about whether or not to quit sharing some of my “gifts” (8th house vs. 2nd house) – my husband and I watched it together and throughout the movie, he kept turning to me, commenting how much I was like Matt Damon’s character.  I’m not really, but there was enough there for me to relate and decide to keep on doing what I do.

            I also wish there were more movies like this. 🙂

          • David5379

            yah I saw that movie, it felt a bit flat to me, sorry lb (maybe its just a matter of taste/preference im sorry for disagreeing) it felt like it was trying to many things and didnt execute the deeper meaning with enough poignancy, it was still interesting for subject material, but i felt a bit let down, but it was not a waste of time or anything, kinda fits mr eastwoods MC as well come to think of it
            as far as movies dealing with mystical visions/ psychic stuff, my favorite is that french movie a prophet (le prophete), only because his visions are so understated and felt more believable, his strange visions weren’t the main impetus of the plot but instead a meaningful part of it, also now that I think about it its also heavily 12th house material, taking place in a prison, just adds to that mystic theme I guess, and it was just a really good movie

            • I’ll have to look for that.

            • LB

              Hi David5379 – After reading your comment, I went looking for “le prophete”, but couldn’t find it – wish I could.  The funny thing is since it wasn’t there, I ended up re-renting “Hereafter”.

              Although I still enjoyed it, I remembered how some aspects of it didn’t ring true for me either; I actually agree with you that it was overly simplistic in parts (“flat” is a good word) and the characters’ interactions and responses didn’t always seem real to me.  It was as if someone was looking at the characters from the outside-in, as opposed to from the inside-out.  I also think most people’s gifts operate on a much subtler level.

              But I still *loved* parts of it, especially how because of the main character’s psychic gifts, he’s often not seen as an individual, but rather as a vehicle or a tool to be used by others to gain access to unseen worlds. 

              Specifically, that’s the part of the movie I related to and *loved*, since I can’t think of another movie that touches on that particular subject and how lonely it can feel.  Rewarding too, but lonely – sometimes no matter how much I share, it’s never enough, and I used to wonder how helpful the information really was, since I sometimes sense that what people are looking for (what they *think* they need) isn’t the same as what they really need.  I’m getting better though, at drawing the line and discerning. 🙂

              • David5379

      , here it is, I might have put it in Spanish on accident or somethingWell I am glad they were able to capture some truth to the situation, and its a shame that psychics have become a sort of cliche or plot device on many shows and movies before ever being justly portrayed, but hey chin up, neptune is in pisces will bring some pretty great psychic stuff I bet. I am a pisces and all, but I am not psychic and I am sure it is very hard, but im glad that you are getting better at it, and im sure you will continue to get the hang of it, and if you DO just tell people only what they want to hear dont feel too bad, its not your fault that is the vibe they are giving off, or that they want to use you to confirm a shaky delusion, even though you will have to put up with a lot of that, there will always be a few who really do need, want, and are ready for genuine help, its a shame you cant make people be ready, or capable of hearing anything besides what they want to hear, but there will always be people you really are helping, and im sure they make it all worth it 🙂

  • Pisi

    Very insightful post Michelle thanks! I shall keep reading this until I can give some more input. Would the 2nd paragraph be the “trine” part of this planetary contact? I have Chiron in 12 degrees & 25 mins of cancer, and Pluto in Scorpio in 12 degrees and 26 mins. It is the tightest aspect in my chart!

    • Some of the second paragraph is more trine-like. When you look at someone like Dr. Phil, who has the trine, and who has made a career out of helping people confront their issues, you can see some of the potential of this aspect. What career path are you following?

  • Michele

    Can you talk a bit more on how these different aspects might manifest in their different degrees? For example, just briefly, what’s the difference between Chiron opp. Pluto vs. Chiron sextile Pluto vs. Chiron trine Pluto? This is a fascinating subject. Chiron aspects five of my planets from Venus straight through Neptune, but misses Pluto. 

    • Hi Michele,

      I can, but it probably won’t be until later in the week when I have a little more time to answer.

  • Thanks for focusing on this, the dark side of my chart. The Pluto/Chiron aspect is so powerful, your post gives me new ways of thinking about it.

    • Melissa! How are you? I’m so glad you stopped by 🙂